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Lucy needs 17 inches

Discussion in 'LCD & LED LCD TVs' started by Lucy, Jan 23, 2005.

  1. Lucy

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    Hello Boys,

    I'm after a 17" LCD for my bedroom, I've looked at:

    Toshiba 17WLT46

    JVC LT-17D50BK

    These both have freeview decoders in them, which is what I'm after, but....

    What's the picture quality like on them, because I'd rather buy a 17" LCD without freeview, but with excellent picture quality and then buy an add on freeview box.

    Price 500-800, nothing larger than 17"s

    Thanks 4 your help

    Lucy
     
  2. deadred

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    Only 17 inches...............sorry can't help you :rotfl:
     
  3. Lucy

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    I know the title is a bit of a joke

    BUT

    76 views and only one reply, which was of no help whatsoever!!!!

    Come on guys, a little more help, ideas and suggestions would be nice!

    Lucy
     
  4. sjdigital

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    If you have a browse though this forum you'll find a few threads about 17" LCDs. Most of them have zero responses (obviously round these parts, 17" is considered inadequate!) but there are a few with some useful feedback about what seems to be good, and what to look out for.
     
  5. Zigster

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    Maybe tomorrow, when we're all back at work, people will have more time to spare to come up with some suggestions! ;)
     
  6. Lucy

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    UK's biggest & best Audio Visual forum!!!


    I thought this would be the place where I would most likely find out information I need on a 17" LCD.

    Some advice or suggestion would be nice, but hey if you don't wanna help me, I'll go else where.

    I know that all you blokes seem to be in to gotta have the biggest screen going. But some of you must read all those magazines out there.

    HELP

    Lucy
     
  7. Random Hajile

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    Well all those magazines out there generally review the big screens aswell :) It`s not that people don`t want to help you on here, it`s that as you say we are all into our big screens so not many folks would even give a 2nd glance at a 17inch screen. 26inch is generally the minimum LCD size people go for on here so anything under that and your gonna be struggling for answers. I did have a quick look at the 2 specs and tbh there doesn`t seem much in it except that the jvc has a higher resolution screen and the contrast ratio`s are similar but at the end of the day it`s down to picture quality and would recommend you look round a few shops and see if you can hunt down these 2 screens and judge for yourself.
     
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    Lucy,

    The reason there is very little response in here is thet 17" sets are not really having much in the way of development thrown their way. Basically the technology at this size is of a low level and does little to attract our attention. Their contrast ratios and Pixel Response times are universally diabolical.

    As random says, go to your local store and test the sets yourself. The two you have mentioned in your origional post are probably your best bet.

    Sorry not to be more helpful.

    Jimmy
     
  9. tamthetim

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    What Hi-fi give the Toshiba 17WLT46 a decent write up, four out of five stars, "Good pictures and sound and a digital tuner included too" - £700 list price

    Philips 17PF9946 gets the same "Gorgeous asethetics and the picture quality is good" - same price, assume no tuner included

    A JVC model is mentioned LT-17E31, three out of four stars, rivals better -£800

    Sharp 20" gets five stars - best in awards - LC-20S1E

    I would cross reference with other magazines and view them if poss.

    Cheers, Tam

    PS. Thought bigger was better :)
     
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    Hi Lucy,

    I have a JVC LT-17E31 in my bedroom, which I feel is fantastic, I use it exclusively with a freeview box and it works for me.

    I also have experience with the Toshiba which I feel isn't as good.

    Go with the JVC if you can spare the extra cash.

    Cheers, Brock.
     
  11. tamthetim

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    also do a search on the forum with the models nos, as people have asked the same question.

    cheers, tam
     
  12. rags

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    Also consider the Sony 17HR3 - I have one and its pretty good.
     
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    Or else, as they are all relatively pants, you could get the Iiyama at about £360, and a freeview box for £50, and go for a serious night out as well. You could probably stretch to a limo with the money you save.
     
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    FWIW, the Iiyama got a real slating (2 stars) in the What Hi-Fi review (December 2004) basically saying that there was a good reason it was cheap and you'd be better off spending a little more for the Sharp LL-171ME. From a quick look on dealtime, you can get the Toshiba 17WLT46 for under £500 now; take into account the £50 cost of a freeview box (and the additional box taking up space in your bedroom) and I'd spend the extra money.

    I think (based on model numbers) there might also be a version of the Tosh for about £100 less without a integrated digital tuner.

    Now, will someone help me with my question about the various bigger Toshiba's (posted Sunday evening with zero replies). :)
     
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    FWIW to me, when did you last see an ad for the Iiyama in a mag, and when a Tosh or Sharp product? Not suggesting the ratings are connected in any way, but you must recall that these mag writers are merely serving their apprenticeship before writing for the super soaraway Sun. It's not a career, being a hi fi journalist. Being a jounalist is the career, with circulation like these mags, it's the equivalent of the local paper where they used to start in days gone by.
     
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    Okay, I'm happy to accept the limitations of magazine reviews and I should have put the disclaimer that "you should make sure you try out the product before buying" rather than the more opaque FWIW. ;)

    I think you're wrong about the journalists, though. I know a few people who work on car mags and they (particularly at the more senior levels) do it because they're enthusiasts rather than because they're biding their time before a job on the nationals beckons. They don't suck up to the big manufacturers if they think the car is pants. :p
     
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    The Iyama screen really is a dud. It comes from the same factory as Acer, Relisys and Hitachi. These screens are all virtually identical. I have the Acer 17" widescreen monitor and it is a fine wee PC monitor. The review refered to above is for the Iyama version and it appears to have similar problems with picture playback to mine.

    Hideous Pixel Response and poor Contrast Ratio. Don't go for this one.

    Stick with the Sharps/JVC's/Sony's and Toshibas.

    Jimmy
     
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    You can get the Sony 17HR3 for £450 on the net - between that and the Iyama screen for £410 there is really no contest.

    The Sony looks great, has a very good picture through normal analogue and superb via DVD. It has all the right connections and comes with a very nice remote.
     
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    I'd be the 1st to agree on that, but the Iiyama is £360. If you have the dosh the sony is super. You just have to decide how much money to spend. For me, I'll spend money on my main display without blinking, but for a little something in the kitchen I suffer conscience problems with big price tags. Just me, not to worry. There is no doubt that spending more gets you a better screen.
     
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    Changing the thread back to the original question - I have a Philips 17PF9945 chosen in preference to the equivalent Sharps for its slighly more forgiving picture. Recommend thought that you buy a separate Free-to-Air digital tuner as it makes a real difference, whatever screen you choose. Should be able to pick one up for under £500.
     
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    Lucy Sweetie!

    Go buy the Phillips 17" and a freeview box (the pioneer is great, and looks good).

    THe Philips was reviewd at £900 just over a year ago, an was the first lcd to get five stars from What HiFi. You can now pick up the newer restyled version for £439 from Digital Direct.
    and go out and have a good time on the change in your handbag!

    I'm suprised some of the more mature members of this forum haven't offered to come and install it in your boudoir???

    (they don't get out much!) :rotfl:

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    Some of us are not so crass, and are married in any case.
     
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    Thanks for all the info, guys

    It's now a toss up between the Tosh 17WLT46B and the Philips 17PF9946 with a freeview box.

    But keep the suggestions and things coming in, not going to make my mind up until the weekend.

    I'd rather the younger ones come round! :D

    Lucy
     
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    Im young :D
     
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    Well ish :rotfl:
     
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    Careful Deano, you know if you want some attention on a male dominated forum the quickest way is to pretend to be female. Lucy might be a gender confused wolf.... But then again I don't think so in her case!
     
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    Good Point :suicide:
     
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    How rude!!!
     
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    Just teasing young Deano, and warning him of the perils of the internet. :D
     

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