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New to AV receivers and surround sound so I'm after abit of advice. Have done abit of research and I'm looking to spend around £700 on AV receiver and speakers??

My current TV is a 4 year old Samsung so it's only HD but I'm looking to upgrade in a few months time when I have more money. So will want a av receiver with 4k. I'm getting abit confused about hdmi 2.0 and hdcp 2.2? Is it just for future proofing? Also is it worth the having 4k upscaling? I will be using an Xbox one, an htpc with kodi and will eventually by a 4k blueray player. Or will the new TV be good enough for 4k upscaling?

I will not be putting speakers in the ceiling so Dolby atmos will be no use to me. Now I would be using 5.1 but might like 7.1 in the future. Also I've heard about HDR would you need the correct TV for this?

I've currently looked at denon Avr-x2200w and Yamaha rx-v range but don't know which as some only have 1 hdcp port. I'm completely stuck on speaker and have no idea so any suggestions will help. Thanks.
 

Ghostrider

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Lots of questions.

4K upscaling is a waste of time as the TV will do it lots better than any AVR you buy in your target price range - most amy AVR you buy now will have 4K passthrough which will be fine.

HDCP 2.2 is 4K copyright protection and you need this if you are going to be trying to watch 4K content through the AVR from say a 4K BluRay when they become available.

HDR - yes this will need to be supported by the TV as well.

As for kit, the Denon X2200 is a great amp but given your overall budget I'd suggest that it is too expensive. To get a balanced system the usual recommendation would be £250 for the AVR and £450 for the speakers.

Something like the ONKYO TXSR444 has HDMI 2.0a and HDCP 2.2 for £250 leaving you £450 for speakers and cables.

The Q ACOUSTICS 2000i 5.1 speakers can be had for around £380 leaving you £70 for speaker cable and HDMI cables as needed.

Check out the Richer Sounds website - all prices are from there.
 
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Cheers for the reply I never looked at the Onkyo before. Do they have the apple/android remote control like the yahama range has?

Also is it worth getting spotify and apple AirPlay? I also noticed it does not support dts:x will that come in the firmware update? Or again is it worth it?

The speakers look good and I've seen them recommended before.

Sorry for the questions again.
 

Hixs

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Onkyo have a terrible reputation for their budget gear failing from what I've read, so i wouldn't touch them with a bargepole....

Maybe start with a Denon x1200w and a 2.0 speaker setup, then add more speakers later?
 

Joe Fernand

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'4K' TV - personally I'd put more money into the AVR/Speaker package and forget about a 4K TV in the short term. There is not/will likely remain not much 'native' 4K content for a while and unless you plan to 'go larger' or move your seating closer to the TV there is no real advantage over your FullHD display.

Spotify/AirPlay - if your not using them now I can't see them being a big 'must have' feature for you, it's pretty inexpensive to add them to any system you have now or in the future.

AVR - as Ghostrider says you can 'future proof' by going with a unit which supports 2160p60, HDCP 2.2 and HDR but otherwise concentrate on the fundamentals of good sound quality and enough Inputs to deal with your Source devices.

Joe
 
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I don't mind spending abit more and waiting abit longer for a new TV. Had a look at the Denon x1200w seems to have everything I want.

Which is better the onkyo txsr444 or the Denom x1200w? Or is it better splashing out extra cash for a better AVR?
 

PSM1

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The onkyo and Denon are a similar level so similar sound quality. Not much point getting a better avr unless you plan to spend a fair bit more on speakers. If you do have a little more to spend then probably worth still getting the same avr but use the extra on better speakers.
 
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Joe Fernand

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HDCP - re the comment about only one port, all HDMI ports are HDCP compliant. What you are seeing is one out of however many HDMI Input ports is HDCP 2.2 the rest are HDCP 2.0.

Room - floor plan, seating layout and dimensions will guide you/folk on suitable loudspeakers.

Budget - you can easily spend £1.5k on a decent 5.1 AVR/Speaker system.

Joe
 

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