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LOTR prequel

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  1. currysauce

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    Don't know if this has been suggested before but what does everyone think of the idea of making a prequel to the LOTR trilogy in a few years. It could be none other than The Hobbit.

    Great story as I read it when I was younger, could be an excellent film. Far better prequel than anything by Star Wars.
     
  2. Kirk

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    I for one would enjoy seeing a film version of the Hobbit! :D
     
  3. Lex

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    I am sure it will happen now that it has been proved that there is big money to be made in LOTR.
     
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    i'm reading it at the moment, before embarking on the LOTR trilogy and it wouldn't make a film. LOTR works cos you have a wide cross section in the fellowship.
    men, a dwarf, an elf, hobbits and a wizard.
    there's only hobbits and dwarves in The Hobbit so I can't see that group dynamic working on screen.
    plus conversations with smaug?!
     
  5. Lex

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    With respect, they used to say the same thing about LOTR.

    I think it would need a talented writer and a lot of trimming to pull it off, but I think it could work.
     
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    Indeed...it would probably need a fair amount of engineering to work well as a movie...bit I think its at least as doable as LOTR trilogy!

    There's a bit more going on than just Hobbits & Dwarfs matey.....we have Gandalf, Orcs, The Bear Dude (forgot his name) and the Lake People!!!!

    Ohhh and not forget that little chappie....Golum (apparently with his daffy duck voice :D Sorry! I just cant let that go!)
     
  7. Steve T

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    If Peter Jackson is going to make The Hobbit, it won't be any time soon.

    I think he's "Tolkiened Out" and has expressed an interest in doing something different for his next project. However, he hasn't ruled it out and I think it's probably inevitable. I just hope they get PJ to do it and not try to quickly cash in with another Director...
     
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    there is more too it yes and I don't think it would take much trimming, its already pretty concise and a very enjoyable read.
    what I was getting at was that none of the central characters are human, that plus the fact that you have 12 or 13 dwarfs with very similar names (I still can't picture any individually) would make it harder for the audience to relate to it than the lord of the rings. Although if it happens, PJ has to be the man for the job.

    PS how do you pronounce Oin and Gloin?
     
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    I think with some good directing (from Jackson) it could be pulled off, even with the 12 or so dwarves. In the Fellowship and Two Towers each character has somewhat of a major role, this needent necessarily be the case in Hobbit.

    You may have to see it many times to learn the names properly, but it its anything like the previous LOTR films, that can only be a good excuse :D

    The return of Ian Holm and Ian McKellen would also be good, making the actors look a little younger.
     
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    You wouldn't need to make Gandalf look any younger - that's the way he's always been!

    Ian Holm might be more of a challenge, but after Gollum - anythings possible.

    James45

    Gloin rhymes with Groin - as per The Council of Elrond in FOTR where Elrond addresses "Gimli, son of Gloin"

    I guess Oin would be pronounced the same (I need to get out more!) :blush:
     
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    must have missed that bit.

    so it's Oye-in and Gloy-in
     
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    You've got it!

    I was just lowering the tone of the thread with my rhyming slang.
     
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    in reply to..........

    "conversations with smaug?!"

    it worked on "Dragonheart"
     
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    true, somebody call sean connery's agent quick!:D
     
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    I'm sure I heard Aragorn say today (I saw TTT today), at the part where he introduces himself and the other 2 to the riders of Rohan, "Gimli, son of Gloin" and pronounced it 'glow in'. So I thought Oin would be pronounced 'Oh in'.

    But then I guess they all pronounce everything differently at different times. They seem to be unable to say Mordor without swallowing in mid-speach.
     
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    I've recently read The Hobbit, and am now half way through FOTR, both a great read,m and I don't know why I didn't pick them up sooner (I've had the books for a couple of years).

    All the way through the Hobbit, I kept thinking how much I'd love to see it made into a film, I'm glad its not just me.

    I'll keep my fingers crossed.

    Ian
     
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    finished the hobbit last night and could visualise the battle of the five armies in the style of Peter Jackson. it would be great as a film. it really turns up the epic rating in the last 50 pages.
     
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    I saw somewhere on the net that Miramax bought the rights to The Hobbit and Lord of the Rings.

    New Line took over the project after Miramax pulled the plug due to budget reasons.
     
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    Don't forget the Eagles.
    If i were Frodo i would have got a ride to Morh.........Dorrrhhhhhh on one of those.:lesson:
     
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    I'd love to see Ian Holm reprise his role but do you think the powers that be in Hollywood would want a brit playing the lead? It was different in LOTR cos the two 'good guys', Frodo and Aragorn, were played by your obligatory americans whereas Bilbohas a cameo. Being the main character in another story is something else. Ian McClellan would no doubt return as Gandalf so i just hope if The Hobbit is made into a film that they keep Ian for Bilbo and not discard him for the sake of their distorted sense of patriotism.
     
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    PJ has said that he was gonna take a big break from tolkien after LOTR is all tied up, but i can certianly see him continueing in a producer role on the hobbit
     
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    The Hobbit would make a great movie. There are elves, fight scenes, dragons. I would love to see it in movie :)
     
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    ian holm already played the younger hobbit in tfor
    all they have to do is to make him look 50

    gandalf is gandalf
    elrond is elrond
    and serkis' scenes will be mainly in the dark so they could use the same 3d models for gollum
     
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    The Hobbit would certainly be more palatable on the silver screen than the ultimate prequel, The Silmarillion. Jeez, that book was hard work (when I read it years ago).
     
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    From Digital Bits:

    Whilst speaking with TIME Europe, Ian McKellan revealed a grand idea for a prequel: "I want to play Gandalf again, in The Hobbit. I've asked Peter Jackson if he'll produce the prequel as a huge, yearlong television series. All those different strands to the story seem perfect for TV, and we'd do every scene of it. It could be marvelous".
     
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    Hi Lex,

    If it is true, that would be neat :)
     
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    Hi Allos,

    Yea - I agree - would be ace :smashin:

    I have thought before that it would be more suited to tv than cinema, lets hope someone does it...
     
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    Viggo Mortensen doesn't really count, he thinks of himself as Danish rather than American (or at least that's the way he comes across in every interview I've seen or read.)

    Hobbit TV series :smashin: :smashin:
     
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    I really hope this Hobbit TV series gets made :clap: :clap:
     
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    I think they should at least do an animated version of The Hobbit - maybe Disney will do it?
     

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