LOTR - anyone else notice...

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  1. HeadBanger

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    Has anyone else noticed that the scene where the fellowship fight the cave troll has been changed?

    I'm sure that when I watched this at the cinema Legolas was seen jumping off the cave troll (after firing an arrow into it's head) and doing a few forward rolls upon landing. In the DVD you see him jump off but not land and forward roll.

    I remember thinking that Logolas' jump an roll didn't look quite right when I saw it at the cinema and speaking about it when we left. Did Peter Jackson think the same and edit it out for the DVD? I wonder how many other little bits were changed?

    If he did change things it makes a nonsense of the claim that you can buy 'the original version now and a special edition in November'! If he has changed it, however little, it isn't the original version!!!

    Still a great film though!!!
     
  2. Glasswalker

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    He did indeed edit that bit out. I am unsure about any other bits axed.
     
  3. HeadBanger

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    Glasswalker - have you seen this confirmed somewhere or have you just noticed the same?
     
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    I saw it confirmed somewhere. Can't remember where though sorry.

    I also did notice it.
     
  5. Bert Coules

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    I might be totally wrong about this, but...

    There's a fleeting moment when Bilbo reacts to losing the Ring: his features are contorted using CGI and - just for a few frames - his eyes are unnaturally wide and his teeth are bared and pointed.

    On the DVD this moment happens in Rivendell when Bilbo notices the Ring around Frodo's neck. But I was absolutely sure that when I saw the movie in the cinema, the moment occured much earlier, in Bag End, between Bilbo and Gandalf.

    I was so convinced of this that when the Bag End scene came and went on the DVD I wondered why the moment had been cut.

    I must be mistaken, surely?

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  6. Lex

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    I am afraid so Bert. That scene always took place, as you have described, in Rivendell. :)
     
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    If that's the case I am sending mine back. It's bad enough having bloody French writing on the cover.
     
  8. Bert Coules

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    You are the only person around here that doesn't! :D :rolleyes: :D
     
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    In theory I wouldn't mind being wrong. If it ever happens I'll let you know whether theory is the same as practice.
     
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    I was wrong once. It was when I had thought I had made a mistake but, in fact, was right after all.
     
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    You are wrong in thinking that you are funny.
     
  13. Droogie 2001

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    One thing I am sure I noticed in the film both at the cinema and on the DVD (sorry I know this link only relates to DVD differences) was when the Hobbits land up on the road and Frodo says they must get off the road and then they hear the approaching Black Rider.

    The way the camera shot is set is so that you can see the Hobbits below the roots of the tree and the road above.
    On the very right hand side of the screen there is a small gap which is between the tree and edge of the screen. You are drawn to the right hand side as you know/hear him approaching from the right. When the Rider appears you should see the him appear briefly in that gap but you don't he only appears after he has passed the left hand side of the tree trunk. ie. in the centre of the screen.

    I am sure that this is correct or perhaps someone can correct me!

    If I am right do you think this was intentional as in this is a Black Rider 'Magic thing' or just that some effects have not been properly created?
     
  14. Bert Coules

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    There are a few slips like that one in the course of the film, not all of them associated with special effects.

    One really glaring example occurs near the end, when Frodo offers the Ring to Aragorn: he holds it out on his outstretched palm - and what we see is just the Ring. What happened to the chain it's been attached to ever since Rivendell?

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