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Looking for Sat PVR with some parental control

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khismet

Guest
I'm looking for a Satellite PVR, that has some way of simply and quickly locking a whole set of channels, ideally making them completely invisible, and which can be equally simply unlocked by PIN / smartcard / something.

The problem is that I have a sat receiver pointing at the Hotbird satellite, which has several hundred channels on it. Most of them rubbish, but some are vaguely educational in a foreign langauge way, and more usefully, occasionally showing live football, including Premiership.

There's some (quite a lot of) hardcore porn channels that occasionally drop out of encryption into fairly explicit adverts (or due to a cock up, so to speak, during a programme) - these aren't such a problem - I can hide these on most machines.

The more problematic ones are the ones which are innocuous sometimes and then drop into sex lines or adult ads later in the day, sometimes fairly early evening. I'd like to be able to block these by time, so they automatically disappear after say 6pm, unless I entered an unblock code.

I'd also want to block/unblock en masse - not channel by channel, and certainly not every time I hit a channel

Does anyone know of a box that would provide anything like this? I'd want a couple of CI slots, and if it came with some sort of allcam, even better; ideally output by component video and RF
 
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khismet

Guest
Nothing? Is there really nothing on the market that will even approach this?

It seems such an obvious requirement, I'm surprised that none of the mfrs have targetted it.

How about one of the Linux-based receivers? Should be able to program one of these to do something like this? (I could program it myself if it has a C compiler and a reasonable API).

Any ideas?:lease:
 
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khismet

Guest
OK, 18 months later, has anything come onto the market that can do this? The Phoenix Apollo looks a possible - has anyone used one of these / can they confirm what parental controls are provided?
 

lovelldr

Active Member
I know you want something which will hide a channel (am guessing you mean not allow someone to select it), but could you not just have the channel locked, and then require you to enter a pin code?

And then, you mentioned not wanting to do them channel by channel. Well, sorry (not meaning to be rude or anything), but how do you expect it to be able to know which ones you want it to block. The only thing receivers can pick up about channels is who is sending out the channel (e.g. BSkyB, C+ etc), the encryption used (NDS, SECA, etc) and the provider IDs (e.g. 100:4101 for D+ etc). A lot of the programs you're talking about, are the free to air ones, and I don't think it would provide any of this info from the channel, or if it does, nothing which would be able to distinguish it...

Now, what you could do, is to use a pc to edit the channel lists. I know that this would work with the dreambox and the tm5400, where you can tell the channel in the list you want it to be locked. This would be faster than doing it on the remote, and may even be able to be done in blocks (i.e. select all the channels you want locked). But I don't think it would work on a time basis either.

Sorry, but that's all I can help you with. Maybe if you're good with your programming, then you could try creating something for the linux box based upon the provider id or something, which might do an automatic ban of channels, and suppose you could even do it on a time period also if you're programming it yourself, but afaik, there's nothing already out there that does this...

hth :)
 

hybug

Standard Member
In response to your plea, some of the newer sat boxes seem to have gone down the road you are looking for. I have recently upgraded to a Hivion HD9090X Ultima High Definition sat receiver. In the menu it gives me the option to delete channels and also has a parental control option which can block channels dependant on age rating, PIN protected of course. I would think that is reliant on the channel broadcasting though as I havent tried it.
Hope that is the sort of info you were looking for, it may be a case of talking to the retailers about what facilities their products now offer. HTH.
 
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khismet

Guest
I know you want something which will hide a channel (am guessing you mean not allow someone to select it), but could you not just have the channel locked, and then require you to enter a pin code?

And then, you mentioned not wanting to do them channel by channel. Well, sorry (not meaning to be rude or anything), but how do you expect it to be able to know which ones you want it to block.

When I say that I don't want to do it channel by channel, I am happy to identify each channel's characteristics - eg, open all hours, PIN protect, hide after watershed, etc, but I want to be able to unlock ALL of the PIN protect channels, by entering the PIN once, not each channel every time I select it

Sorry, but that's all I can help you with. Maybe if you're good with your programming, then you could try creating something for the linux box based upon the provider id or something, which might do an automatic ban of channels, and suppose you could even do it on a time period also if you're programming it yourself, but afaik, there's nothing already out there that does this...

hth :)

I have a feeling that I may well end up programming the damn thing myself - Linux isn't exactly my environment of choice, but I have done some c/unix programming in the past, so this shouldn't be beyond the wit of mankind to derive something.

Can anyone point me at developer's forum(s) for any of the more programmable boxes?
 

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