Looking for a 24" - 32" LCD TV or Monitor

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  1. Strocky

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    That has the following features -:

    SCART socket
    1080i
    HDMI
    1900 x 1200 resolution
    Quick response time (PC & Xbox 360 Games)
    Will be used as both a PC/Xbox 360 and TV display (Dbox2 Cable Box mainly)

    Got a Mirai DTL-632V200 at the moment, although the Cable box picture is superb via scart for PC the 1368 x 768 resolution is'nt great for reading text on the pc

    Any solutions would be appreciated :smashin:
     
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    Not yet lcd tv with 1920 resolution!!!!!But the new Sharp 32X20 will be!!!!
     
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    can't find any specs on google, do you have a link & estimated price/release date?

    Also would I not be better off with an LCD monitor with component out which I could then convert to scart via an adaptor?
     
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    that's 1080p resolution... so unless you're considering going up tto 37", then you're talking about a computer monitor, not a TV.
     
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    yep after googling I came to the same conclusion :smashin:


    Any recommendations for a monitor?
     
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    not many that have SCART or HDCP compatible DVI's (required if you want to use DVI to HDMI).

    personal choice: http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/ProductInfo.asp?WebProductID=625338

    SCART socket - YES
    1080i - not sure - 720p = 100%
    HDMI - via DVI, yes! (HDCP compliant DVI)
    1900 x 1200 resolution - no 1680x1050, so not too bad.
    Quick response time (PC & Xbox 360 Games) - 3ms
    Will be used as both a PC/Xbox 360 and TV display (Dbox2 Cable Box mainly)
    BUT only 22"
    BUT only £250!

    another option, but I have NO idea what it's like: http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/ProductInfo.asp?WebProductID=533851

    http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/ProductInfo.asp?WebProductID=533851
    Resolution: 1920x1440
    £800-odd for 42"
    "1080P ready"
    2 x HDMI
    2 x SCART
    1 x VGA

    liek I said... NO idea what it's like though!!
     
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    sorry to threadjack Strocky: Can you elaborate on your problems please? was going to buy one of those sets as a bedroom tv / pc monitor, would appreciate your real world feedback. cheers.
     
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    bellamy - I've not seen the Mirai, but a common problem with these "TV/monitor" cmbo's is that the LCD used is a very poor dot-pitch - which is absolutely irrelevant once you're more than about 1.5metres away (using it as a TV)... but usually people read computer screens from about 50cm-75cm away... so a TV that is being used as a PC screen will stumble.
     
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    you will never end up with a solution where you have a good computer monitor and a good TV in one: make a choice, is this primarilly a TV or a computer screen.

    The reason I say this is that the other big limitation is that computer screens do NOT have the same sort of contrast ratios that TV's have, so watching movies in a darkened room will leave lots of room for greyish blacks and lack of details on teh darker colours, shadows, etc.
     
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    not any major problems, just when reading forums, the text can place a strain on your eyes.

    For playing games it's fine - Bioshock looks immense on it.

    I should say I've not wall mounted the LCD yet, so I am only a couple of feet away which won't help.

    Hope this helps!
     
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    but surely there's a monitor out there with the 1900 x 1200 resolution and the component out so that I can hook up my Dbox to it?

    I've searched here and using google but not finding much :oops:
     
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    there are a few options if you're not too concerned about budget...

    Dell™ UltraSharp™ 3007WFP-HC* 30-inch Widescreen LCD Flat Panel Monitor

    Dell™ UltraSharp™ 2707WFP widescreen LCD

    bute we're talking £1100-£750 RRP.

    A friend has the older 24" "2405W" version of these Dell screens: it runs something like 1920 x 1200 res and the DVI line in will accept an HDCP signal (Virgin media box) and then he runs his sound via a separate amp.

    Not sure about the new models, but if u got one of the older ones, you'd have to buy a SCART to VGA converter...

    I've seen it and I muct confess, I was pessimistic about the black levels but they were surprisingly good - only had a quick glance, but it certainly seemed pretty respectable as a TV and presumably works very well as a PC screen.

    Only prob was that it only seemed to handle 720P HDMI signals... 1080P didn't work despite being WELL within it's res. they might have sorted this out since then though....
     
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    STOP PRESS:

    The new models of those will do everything that you need pretty much!

    UltraSharp™ 2407WFP-HC = £375

    http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MO-019-DE

    - 1920 x 1200 (WUXGA+) Optimum Resolution
    - Supports advanced features like PIP (Picture-in-Picture) and PBP (Picture-By-Picture)
    - 16.7 Million Colours
    - 1000:1 Contrast Ratio
    - 6ms Response Time
    - 400 cd/m2 Brightness
    - One DVI-D Input w/HDCP Support
    - One Analogue Input
    - One S-Video Input
    - One Composite Input
    - One Component Input
    - Height adjustable stand (100mm travel)
    - VESA mounting compatible / Security slot : Yes (100mm) / Yes
    - Integrated powered USB 2.0 hub : 4 downstream / 1 upstream ports
    - Integrated powered 9-in-2 Card Reader
    - Warranty : 4 year next business day exchange supplied by Manufacturer (Call Dell on 0870 9080800 and have the work number from the original packaging handy)

    Or go here: http://www.overclockers.co.uk/produ...&catid=510&sortby=nameAsc&catid=510&mfrid=282

    and then have a look at the 27" and 30".... but since they're PC screen spec, they do push the budget a lot harder!

    27" @ £705 and 30" and £810

    but you are getting a PC screen with a host of TV inputs (composite, component, s-vid, etc).... doesn't actually have a SCART, but with the right scart to s-video or SCART to composite cable, you're laughing!

    This is approaching it from the angle of "good PC screen, that will take some TV inputs" angle... ranther than beforehand where I was looking for a TV with high res....even the very best TV's won't have the dot-pitch to make text comfortably readable for hours on end.

    NB - contrast ratio's don't look that great on paper, but that are actual contractast ratios, rather than dynamic contrast ratios....

    That and the the fact that you'll need separate sound seem to be the only compromises....

    If you['re wanting PC screen resolutions, you're paying PC screen prices.... or settle for a grainier (and much cheaper) image.... just decide how much text reading you're going to be doing and pick your price / screen size.
     
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    cheers mate, your a star :clap::clap:
     
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    I use the 2707 for PC, Xbox 360 and PS3 and it looks amazing.

    If you don't mind taking a bit of a punt on a refurb (I did) I bought my 2707 from www.mcscom.co.uk cost me £350+vat+p&p. Monitor was in perfect confidition and came with all the cables etc and was delivered very quickly. They also sometimes have the 3007 as well.

    Steve
     
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    Have you connected it to a SCART based box (i.e. cable box etc,) via a component to SCART adaptor?

    If so, what's the quality like?
     
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    I haven't to be honest but I have run Component and composite into it. Component looks very good, but composite looked awful, but then it wasn't the best input signal and scaling composite SD to 1080p and sitting at it as if its a computer monitor (1-2 feet tops away) was never going to do the image quality any favours.
     
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