My 7 year old Samsung LE32C530 has served me well, but it's time to go bigger and 4K! My main reason for this TV was for the 24p support, I watch a lot of movies and TV series recorded in 23.976fps on my HTPC and I currently have MPC-HC auto-change the refresh rate to 24hz when going fullscreen, as I hate 3:2 pulldown on 60hz. No stutter/judder is present whatsoever (are these two terms interchangeable btw?) It's when the camera is panning across and I can see small hitches, this bothers me a lot.
I also watch broadcast TV via my Humax HDR-FOX T2, this uses 50hz on my TV and experience no stutter from that either. TV's Smart features are not a strong point as I use the Humax for Freeview HD and the HTPC for Netflix/Amazon Prime.
If I can get a 55" that provides what my current TV can do or better, that would be great. I have my eyes set on the Samsung MU6400, but according to rtings.com/tv/tests/motion/24p all of Samsung's MU range have judder on 24p? Most of the other TVs listed there are american brands, £1300 or something silly, and/or unavailable in the UK. My TV was only £309 when I bought it in 2010!
Main points:
What are your sources going to be? eg - Do you have fibre internet capable of UHD streams? Will you be buying and using an UHD Blu-Ray player? Netflix? Amazon? Catch up TV? HDR consoles? PC?
Humax HDR-FOX T2 (HD Freeview recorder)
HTPC, up to 4K
Possibly buy a UHD Blu-ray player or games console at later date, currently use a PS3.
Both Netflix and Amazon Prime 4K via the HTPC, fibre broadband 76Mbps.
SD vs HD vs UHD use percentage? eg 20% 60% 20%
SD 5%, HD 95%, UHD whenever possible once I have it.
Movies, football, console games, PC use (in percentage)?
Movies/TV series 90%, Games console 10%
Are you bothered with basic calibration ie discs?
Don't think so
How close can you view the TV?
2 metres
What are you currently using and what do you expect by upgrading to a new TV?
Samsung LE32C530 1080p
Expecting higher resolution and size, and retaining the judder-free feature of my current TV at 24hz. Not having to change refresh rates anymore would be a bonus if that is possible.
Please rearrange the following PQ attributes, in descending importance:
Motion handling (probably best to have these available if I want to fine-tune)
Blacks
Local dimming (Sounds good to have, why not. Usually have trouble seeing dark scenes on my TV)
Viewing angle (head on, not interested in curved screen anyway - they reflect a lot apparently?)
HDR Brightness
HDR Colour Accuracy
HDR Colour Saturation
(Not experienced HDR I don't think, but would be nice to have if it's great as it sounds)
SDR Brightness
SDR Colour Saturation
SDR Colour Accuracy
How accurate the picture is out of the box (without having to change any settings)
Now for bugs, tell us your possible pet hates related to TVs, in descending order:
3:2 Pulldown Judder with 24hz movies. See: Judder-Free 24p on TVs
Soap Opera Effect
Loss of detail in dark areas
Reflective screens
Bad screen uniformity, Dirty Screen Effect, Clouding, Light Bleed, Blooming
Temporary image retention
Haloing
Colour banding. See: Gradients on TVs: Color bit depth (warning this is not the same as vertical banding, for vertical banding see bad screen uniformity)
Now which is most important to you?
Connections (at least 3 HDMI)
HDR PQ
Price - budget of £700 but could go up to £800
SDR PQ
Smart TV
Sound (using a soundbar, 3 optic cable comes from freeview/htpc/ps3. TV sound needs to be able to be switched off).
I also watch broadcast TV via my Humax HDR-FOX T2, this uses 50hz on my TV and experience no stutter from that either. TV's Smart features are not a strong point as I use the Humax for Freeview HD and the HTPC for Netflix/Amazon Prime.
If I can get a 55" that provides what my current TV can do or better, that would be great. I have my eyes set on the Samsung MU6400, but according to rtings.com/tv/tests/motion/24p all of Samsung's MU range have judder on 24p? Most of the other TVs listed there are american brands, £1300 or something silly, and/or unavailable in the UK. My TV was only £309 when I bought it in 2010!
Main points:
- No stutter is top priority, but I hate fixes like soap opera effect, makes it look like people are moving at an unnaturally sped-up rate.
- Image quality comes second priority.
- 4K
- I sit roughly 2m from the TV
- Usually have to close curtains to watch TV in the day due to reflection from the screen. Not a big deal... I need to do this anyway as afternoon sun is in the direction of my face.
- a gamer but not competitive.
- Smart features not important
- Bonus if I don't have to faff around with changing refresh rates anymore, but I don't think we're there yet?
What are your sources going to be? eg - Do you have fibre internet capable of UHD streams? Will you be buying and using an UHD Blu-Ray player? Netflix? Amazon? Catch up TV? HDR consoles? PC?
Humax HDR-FOX T2 (HD Freeview recorder)
HTPC, up to 4K
Possibly buy a UHD Blu-ray player or games console at later date, currently use a PS3.
Both Netflix and Amazon Prime 4K via the HTPC, fibre broadband 76Mbps.
SD vs HD vs UHD use percentage? eg 20% 60% 20%
SD 5%, HD 95%, UHD whenever possible once I have it.
Movies, football, console games, PC use (in percentage)?
Movies/TV series 90%, Games console 10%
Are you bothered with basic calibration ie discs?
Don't think so
How close can you view the TV?
2 metres
What are you currently using and what do you expect by upgrading to a new TV?
Samsung LE32C530 1080p
Expecting higher resolution and size, and retaining the judder-free feature of my current TV at 24hz. Not having to change refresh rates anymore would be a bonus if that is possible.
Please rearrange the following PQ attributes, in descending importance:
Motion handling (probably best to have these available if I want to fine-tune)
Blacks
Local dimming (Sounds good to have, why not. Usually have trouble seeing dark scenes on my TV)
Viewing angle (head on, not interested in curved screen anyway - they reflect a lot apparently?)
HDR Brightness
HDR Colour Accuracy
HDR Colour Saturation
(Not experienced HDR I don't think, but would be nice to have if it's great as it sounds)
SDR Brightness
SDR Colour Saturation
SDR Colour Accuracy
How accurate the picture is out of the box (without having to change any settings)
Now for bugs, tell us your possible pet hates related to TVs, in descending order:
3:2 Pulldown Judder with 24hz movies. See: Judder-Free 24p on TVs
Soap Opera Effect
Loss of detail in dark areas
Reflective screens
Bad screen uniformity, Dirty Screen Effect, Clouding, Light Bleed, Blooming
Temporary image retention
Haloing
Colour banding. See: Gradients on TVs: Color bit depth (warning this is not the same as vertical banding, for vertical banding see bad screen uniformity)
Now which is most important to you?
Connections (at least 3 HDMI)
HDR PQ
Price - budget of £700 but could go up to £800
SDR PQ
Smart TV
Sound (using a soundbar, 3 optic cable comes from freeview/htpc/ps3. TV sound needs to be able to be switched off).
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