Looking down the barrel..

indianwells

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I actually did this afternoon, and I don't want to do it again.
America may be a great place but the State Troopers in S. Carolina are scary ****ers, and they are everywhere!
I was on my way down I95 heading to Savannah from a three day break in Charleston when in my mirror, about 2 foot from the back of my car were more blue flashing lights than the Aurora borealis. I pull over and in my wing mirror I see him approaching. I reach over to open the electric window and....

" PUT BOTH HANDS ON THE WHEEL!!.....NOW!!!"

I look in the mirror again and he's pointing his ****ing gun at me!
He comes up to the window and tells me to wind the window down fully. All I can see is a loaded gun pointing at me. I explain I am a Brit on holiday in a rental car and he relaxes and puts his gun away. I nearly shat myself I have to say.:blush:

Anyway, he says if a police officer approaches you from behind always keep both hands on the wheel. Of course I know this having watched Starsky & Hutch many times, I just didn't expect i'd ever have to do it.
He says he stopped me for travelling too close to the back of a truck and to keep my distance. After checking my licence and passport he bids me adieu and tells me to have a nice day.

Have a nice day? HAVE A NICE DAY??? How can I have a nice day when for the first time in my life i've had a ****ing big gun pointing at my head? ****.:mad:

Apart from that, America is great and I shall be getting extremely ****** tonight in lovely Savannah. I'm leaving my car parked up for the next four days. Somehow I don't feel like driving...:rolleyes:
 

Desmo

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How can I have a nice day when for the first time in my life i've had a ****ing big gun pointing at my head? ****.:mad:
Don't worry, it wouldn't have been pointing at your head :D

Have a nice day :thumbsup:
 

Miyazaki

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America is a seriously ****ed up country.
 

sparkie1984

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i guess a gun to them isnt a gun to us, when in some states any old mug can walk around with a gun in their pocket!
 

sparkie1984

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maybe its a state where your allowed guns though? so he needs his gun out incase you have a gun?

(i know great mentality to live in)
 

StevePSIV

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I am sure he would have to have had a good reason to pull out his gun?

Surely they cannot pull out their gun because you are driving too close to another car or truck?

otherwise while giving a speeding fine that means they can point their gun at an old granny who has gone 5mph over the limit?
I think the reason was because he didn't have both hands on the wheel. Copper might have thought that he was reaching for a weapon himself.
 

travid

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I was with an American marine pilot in Northen Norway, 1984.

His brother was a state trooper in Georgia and around the time before the annual summer festival, they would stop every "out of state" car and find a reason to fine the driver for some made up reason. This was a well known "system" they had for "funding" the festival:eek:

You thought Norfolk was bad! ooooarrrrr
 

Hopalong

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I remember when I was working at faslane Naval base and they had armed guards with machine guns don't know what type just looked bloody scary. Made me feel nervous just looking at them and then when you go in you have to have your picture taken and sign the secrets act paper and then be escorted in and out of the building. Thought Jesus I've only come to fix automated store picker. :rolleyes:
 

BAN5HEE

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Coming from South-Africa where we have grown up with guns and everyone in the farming community carries a handgun you just don't notice them. The other day at Liverpool street cops had guns and a friend of mine freaked out. I didn't even notice as to me they are no big deal. I guess it's where you are brought up.
 

nheather

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I got lost with some colleagues driving from Jo'berg airport and Pretoria in South Africa.

We turned west instead of east and ended up in the hills. We realised our mistake and turned back in the proper direction. But we were pulled over by a police road block because that area is popular with poachers.

They wanted to look in the car, whether we had guns etc. The police had holstered sidearms but all the time another one sat in a Bedford truck parked at the end of the layby.

He was standing through the roof cupula with a 50 cal machine gun trained on our car. :eek:

After making sure we didn't have had game they politely lets us on our way.

Cheers,

Nigel
 

Deadringers

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I got lost with some colleagues driving from Jo'berg airport and Pretoria in South Africa.

We turned west instead of east and ended up in the hills. We realised our mistake and turned back in the proper direction. But we were pulled over by a police road block because that area is popular with poachers.

They wanted to look in the car, whether we had guns etc. The police had holstered sidearms but all the time another one sat in a Bedford truck parked at the end of the layby.

He was standing through the roof cupula with a 50 cal machine gun trained on our car. :eek:

After making sure we didn't have had game they politely lets us on our way.

Cheers,

Nigel
Would have been a bit useless to fire that thing at you as he would have hit his mates..unless of course they were a couple meters aways from you :)
 

nheather

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I'm sure they didn't ever think they would use it - just a deterrent and a very intimidating one.

I guess if I had pulled a gun or tried to drive off then it might have been put to some use.

But probably more for show - but very scary all the same, I can tell you.

Cheers,

Nigel
 

Davieboy00

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Scary people these american police.
Very worrying when you watch Cops and they pull somebody out of their car and beat the living crap out of them while shouting " Stop resisting !!! " like that gives them the right.
And if that is the stuff they are happy to go out on a TV show you just wonder what else goes on without being filmed or caught on camcorder etc.
 

johntheexpat

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Co I didn't even notice as to me they are no big deal. I guess it's where you are brought up.
I'm more than happy that most people find them 'A Big Deal'.

The French cops all seem to be armed and those with a thumping big hand gun strapped to their waist and bottle bottom glasses are the ones that really worry me. I prefer weapons to be hidden from view by highly trained professionals with nerves of steel and 20/20 vision.
 

sgt_raffie

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I think its a matter of "getting used" to them. I used to work with guns (army and than money convoys) so Im not freaked ou by a gun. However I agree that being on the recieving end of a gun can be a very traumatic experiance. Mind You, I can see where the policeman was coming from. There might have been a report of a suspicius car simmilar to Your rental one, hence cop was a bit jumpy. I was in a simmilar situations myself (possible attack on convoy when stationary) and having gun out gives You control of situation.
But UK is very gun free place, thats probably people around here are shocked when they see one.
 

KhalJimbo

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Coming from South-Africa where we have grown up with guns and everyone in the farming community carries a handgun you just don't notice them. The other day at Liverpool street cops had guns and a friend of mine freaked out. I didn't even notice as to me they are no big deal. I guess it's where you are brought up.
One thing i did notice here though is that the cash in transit vans dont seem be bomb proof. Also the guys walking with the cash tins are not surrounded by guys with sub machine guns.
 

sgt_raffie

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One thing i did notice here though is that the cash in transit vans dont seem be bomb proof. Also the guys walking with the cash tins are not surrounded by guys with sub machine guns.
Yep, I miss some aspects of my job :D
Vans were bomb proof and bulletproof and we used a combination of handguns, sub machine guns and shotguns, depanding on the situation.
 

DVD-Man

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I remember when I was working at faslane Naval base and they had armed guards with machine guns don't know what type just looked bloody scary. Made me feel nervous just looking at them and then when you go in you have to have your picture taken and sign the secrets act paper and then be escorted in and out of the building. Thought Jesus I've only come to fix automated store picker. :rolleyes:
H&K MP5's they use and German Shepherds LOL did you have to follow the coloured lines?


I really enjoyed myself although it was scary.
 

BAN5HEE

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One thing i did notice here though is that the cash in transit vans dont seem be bomb proof. Also the guys walking with the cash tins are not surrounded by guys with sub machine guns.
No most of them aren't. The tactic used to rob them seems to be to swamp them with big trucks and push it off the road to make it roll or turn over. When the guards struggle out they shoot them and take the money.
 

Dave Weystoner

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maybe its a state where your allowed guns though? so he needs his gun out incase you have a gun?
That's undoubtedly the reason. I once told a US colleague when I was in Washington that my trick in the UK for getting out of a speeding fine is to get out and walk to the police car - it puts them at a psychological disadvantage - and he nearly had a fit. He said I would likely get shot in the US, because it would be seen as threatening behaviour, and that I should stay in the car with my hands in plain sight.

He also said, when I expressed surprise at the sedate speeds and courteous behaviour on the Beltway, that "it's because of the guns", meaning that the driver you're cutting up may have a gun and use it on you.

As someone said, scary place.

Dave
 

Chox1988

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i guess a gun to them isnt a gun to us, when in some states any old mug can walk around with a gun in their pocket!
maybe its a state where your allowed guns though? so he needs his gun out incase you have a gun?

(i know great mentality to live in)
Been said already but pretty much +1 to the above quotes, he sounded like a nice enough guy though wishing you a nice day etc, think he was just doing what's necessary under the circumstances and us being from england makes it a very alien experience to us.
 

sparkie1984

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as you say, you cant blame him wanting to protect his life.

maybe you should fly a union jack from the car like a jolly roger so they know your country of origin :D

i was having an argument with an american once whos argument to guns was, he wants a gun incase he gets mugged.

my argument is a potential mugger definitely needs a gun as you could have a gun. the good thing about the uk is that a potential mugger knows you will not have a weapon on you so they in return do not need extreme force/or a gun (i know thats not always the case) but generally while horrific etc most muggins dont use a gun or the likes.

but their so blind to everything, they think guns fix everything..... you pull out a gun, ill pull out a bigger gun..... crazy mentality if you ask me! and they wonder why nut jobs flip out and shoot up high schools etc.
 

Purperen

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Me and my mate got chatting to a couple of on-duty motorcycle cops outside a diner in New York a few of years ago and they couldn't have been nicer. One let me sit on his Harley Davidson to have my picture taken and he even put his crash helmet on my head for the photo. I can't see many British policemen being that friendly.
 

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