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Look Ma, no hands

Member 55145

Distinguished Member
i think its disgusting how people get away with most things in cars. even if you think your a good driver. the other driver your about to hit may not be so good.

it p's me off that smokers dont get prosecuted for dangerous driving. not only are they having to constantly hold something in one hand, it also on fire! how many accidents are caused by people smoking each year? my gf was telling me the other day how one of her relatives almost had an accident because he tried flicking his fag out his driverside UNOPENED window :rolleyes:

the only reason why cops dont stop people smoking and driving is they fear being called predjudice

one of my ex's said she was ****** off cause a copper stopped her because she was eating a grape while driving. i said i was ****** off that they didnt fine you!

Eating, Smoking, make-upping, hairbrushing, toe-nail clipping, reading should all be banned at the wheel! its irresponsible and dangerous!
 

Monty Burns

Well-known Member
mcfarfs said:
My mate got stopped and given a lecture from the police for riding his bicycle along a cycle path with no hands :rotfl: .
:rotfl: Excellent .... hehehe
 

cartmin

Standard Member
Have a go at the smokers again .......:suicide:

Simply amazes me that people feel the need to associate bad driving with something .....just face it some people just cant drive 'properly' to save their life ....or more importantly the lives of others !

There are so many other factors nowdays .....an abundance of vans, 4x4's, mpv's, blacked out windows,and genrally high backed vehicles which once infront block your view ......gone are the days when you could still have a view thru a line of cars ..... 'too close' I hear you cry ....so you leave your space and get another moron or two squeeze in the gap !

The problem is where do you stop ......ban radios....so you dont lose concentration changing tapes ,cd's or just listening ....ban passengers from talking or just ban everyone and everything .

Most of the people I pass on the way to work arent smoking, drinking, eating or putting make up on .....but they still insist in hogging the middle lane with nothing else in sight .....MOVE OVER !

Modern cars .....still havent got those indicator thingys to work though ????!!!!

Not condoning her actions but the fact that she recieved a ban for an earlier drink driving offence says it all really.

The list goes on and on but dont tar everyone with the same brush please.

Cartmin
 

Paul D

Well-known Member
meansizzler said:
Well the invetion of the in Car GPS does not seem to help....

I know what you mean...

I could do with the forum members advice:lesson:

I bought the wife a new car last month.
One of the new Renault Scenics etc.

She crashed it the first time out!:rolleyes:
She reckons isn't wasn't her fault.
She is saying the car is faulty.

I made sure we bought one with an auto gearbox/Cruise control/satnav.
The headlamps and wipers come on automatically, and even the handbrake is computer controlled and is automatic.

I knew something was wrong in the first few minutes.
She was sat on the drive, looking puzzled.
The car doesn't use a key.
Instead, you have a card that just needs to be in your pocket.
You press a button on the dash, and a computer goes through a check sequence and starts the car for you.
Once this was done, i left her too it.
The lights came on and the wipers gave a quick sweep.
She selected reverse, and the rear wiper came on.
As soon as she brushed the accelerator, the automatic handbrake released and off she went.

She said everything was going great, and that the automatic climate control did a fantastc job of clearing the fogged up glass and then leveling the temperature to exactly 24.5C.

She said she then decided to set the Satnav to her work place, and let the traffic management control(TMC) search for any traffic jams.
It shown that the motorway ahead was clear, so she set the automatic cruise control.

Since her drive to work takes about 45 minutes, she decided to climb into the back seat and read a magazine.

She said everything was fine for a few minutes, but that was when the fault occurred.
She said the car started driving erratically, and hit the barrier.

Luckily, the car is also fitted with several automatic airbags(wheel/seat/curtain etc) so she got out unmarked.
Also, the car is fitted with anti-lock brakes, yet she reckons the car still skidded so there must be several faults with it.

The police have decided to charge her with "driving without due care and attention", but she feels that it is the cars fault.
She wants to sue Renault, as the car was brand new and the insurance is refusing to pay out.

Any advice on what we should do next would be greatly appreciated:thumbsup:
 

Member 55145

Distinguished Member
shoot her? put the poor thing out its misery
 

damage

Active Member
i dont condone her previous drink driving offences, but i also dont think her driving without hands should be seen as an offence

i say this partly because i often drive without hands and dont see this automatically as making me a careless driver
 

Monty Burns

Well-known Member
damage said:
...i say this partly because i often drive without hands and dont see this automatically as making me a careless driver


You jest right? Unless of course you have a specialy adapted car?


Examples of why that could very easily make you a "careless driver"

Someone runs out in front of you?
Someone pulls out in front of you?

Or

a Front tyre blows?
Front suspension collapses?
(insert other many mechanical possibilities)
 

Member 55145

Distinguished Member
i think thats why his name is damage :rotfl:

IMO you always need ATLEAST one hand on the wheel. and need to have the other available at an instant
 

overkill

Distinguished Member
damage said:
i dont condone her previous drink driving offences, but i also dont think her driving without hands should be seen as an offence

i say this partly because i often drive without hands and dont see this automatically as making me a careless driver
You often do your makeup while driving then do you?;)
 
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Dr Diversity

Guest
JagoPlasma said:
Eating, Smoking, make-upping, hairbrushing, toe-nail clipping, reading should all be banned at the wheel! its irresponsible and dangerous!

and even driving in some instances!
 

mrtbag

Well-known Member
I could never understand why driving using a mobile is not allowed, yet a taxi driver is allowed to drive with a radio in one hand and a pen in other to write down his next job.:confused:
 

Mr Cat

Banned
I've got a male colleague who (every morning) whilst driving to work does his hair in the interior mirror - his car veers to the left at about the same angle to the bend in the road!! :eek:
 

mcfarfs

Banned
My mum was going along the M25 yesterday afternoon, and saw a lady driving along at a happy 65-70mph. Nothing wrong with that.

Except she was reading a newspaper.

And apparantly her eyes wern't just darting down at the page and then back to the road (which would have been bad enough), but she was looking down at her paper for 2-3 seconds at a time :eek:.

My mum said she considered phoning the police (she was a passenger in the car), it was so dangerous.
 

shodan

Distinguished Member
And drivers so often moan about being persecuted by the goverment and police. The truth is, there are minimal excepted driving standards and most of us fall short of them at one time or another. Unfortunately, as a car is our own personal property and (most folks) have a licence, insurence and pay road tax, we take it a bit personal when it is implied that we aren't a very good driver!
 

Monty Burns

Well-known Member
its been said by myself and a few others on these boards....


Taking a Motorbike Compulsory Basic Training should be compulsory to passing a driving test. It's 60quid (?) takes one morning or afternoon and makes you realise how vulnerble you are (even in a cage) and how stupid the majority of drivers are.

This move alone would save hundreds of lives .... bikers, cage drivers and pedestrians.
 

Paul D

Well-known Member
madcyril said:
I may be being thick but please tell me you are joking.
Yes i was:D
But i wasn't joking about all the automatic gadgets on board.
She only has to steer the thing!:eek:

I dread the day comes when she wants to borrow my car.
I can see it now...

"Darling, there is something wrong with your car"
"I had to start it by inserting one of them old fashioned key things"
"I then couldn't get it in gear until i remembered to use the clutch"
"I think you head lamps are broke, as it was dark and they didn't come on"
"Also the wipers didn't come on when it started to rain"
"I nearly burnt your clutch out, until i remembered to release that handbrake stick thing"
"I set off and the doors didn't auto lock....i could have been murdered!"
"How am i supposed to know where to go without satnav?"
"And driving sucks without cruise control"

"Then the windows started to fog up since you don't have climate control!"
"I forgot i could have just opened a window"

"AT LEAST I FOUND OUT YOUR AIRBAGS WORK":oops:

:hiya:
 

Pollywoggle

Well-known Member
Monty Burns said:
its been said by myself and a few others on these boards....


Taking a Motorbike Compulsory Basic Training should be compulsory to passing a driving test. It's 60quid (?) takes one morning or afternoon and makes you realise how vulnerble you are (even in a cage) and how stupid the majority of drivers are.

This move alone would save hundreds of lives .... bikers, cage drivers and pedestrians.
Too true :smashin:
 

BrynTeg

Distinguished Member
found out today that i speak to this girl every day,shes our credit controller at our builders merchant,cant wait to speak to her tomorrow and ask a few questions:smashin:
 

damage

Active Member
damage said:
i dont condone her previous drink driving offences, but i also dont think her driving without hands should be seen as an offence

i say this partly because i often drive without hands and dont see this automatically as making me a careless driver


hmm, ive just read what i wrote, and can't quite understand why i wrote it! Hopefully the time of night can be used as an excuse.

(I say that writing this late at night while tired, so maybe i will retract this statement as well tomorrow! Non the less i cant think of any times ive had to drive with no hands.)
 

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