Discussion in 'General Chat' started by brendan_dj, Sep 12, 2007.
Why does Earl's Court have an apostrophe yet Barons Court doesn't?
The age old question.
And why are there not three consecutive 'o's in 'zoology'?
Ah yes - the misuse or non use of the apostrophe. Damned outrageous!
Never thought about these issues until they were brought up just now
We are so insignificant compared to the universe are we not?
It's quite simple really.
47 x 3.784 = 177.848 divide this by 71.56 = 2.4852990497484628283957518166574
Obviously then you cannot have a ' in Barons.
Google found this:
... but why are the following pronounced strangely:
1. Magdalene (as in College) = Maudlin?
2. St John (as in Norman St John Stevas / Lord St John of Fawsley - rent-a-quote ex Tory MP and 'constitutional expert') = Sinjen?
3. Belvoir (as in Belvoir Castle in Leicester, and many pubs of that name) = Beaver?
4. Menzies (as in John Menzies newsagents and Menzies 'Ming' Campbell) = Minges?
Thanks for that, Party Web.
There IS a fuss. On the map, there is no apostrophe!
Is it really? well..............
Something to do with the English hating the French from memory.
My personal favorite is people with the surname death who change it to De' Ath
My old GP was called Dr.Cockbain, "it's pronounced Cobain". Yeah, of course it is Doc
just like Cockburns eek port is pronounced 'coh-burns'
It's lies I tell you, all lies!!
one earl so its Earl's
many barons so its Barons
could be Barons', but that apostrophe is not required in english,its optional.
How could you suggest it's optional ol' bean - it's vital!
I refer to many MPs as minges, although sometimes with alternative terminology
It seems that most punctuation is optional these days
were you referrring to:-
"it's optional", Pat?
I think there has been the same debate about St. Albans. Place names appear to have their own rules: i.e make it up to what best suits the locals!
Back to the OT topic(!)
Captain Mainwaring pronounced "mannering"
Chalmondley pronounced "Chumley"
Oswaldtwistle pronounced Ozzletwistle.
We have a rich heritage!
Actually, I was making a more general comment as I didn't spot that. Strange, as I don't usually miss such opportunities
Dalziel = Dee-el
Gloucester = Gloss-ter
don't start me on EdinWatchaMaCallIt
...and why is abbreviation such a long word?
Probably for the same reason that syllable has so many.
Why Westward Ho! - the only place in the country to have punctuation in the place name.
Eh? I've lived in St.Albans for 32 years & never seen it written any other way. It's St.Albans or St Albans - never seen an apostrophe unless refering to something belonging to the city.
Loughborough - looga-barooga
"The apostrophe in St Albans (used by Shakespeare, for example) was lost in 1877 when a parliamentary draftsman omitted it from the Bill to elevate the town to city status. No one seems to have spotted the omission, and once the Act became law the apostrophe had been abolished by statute."
Somehow I think that's on purpose.
Another example is Islington being pronounced how it's spelt rather than i-ling-ton as in island
Having seen "Ming" (Mingiss) Campbell on TV today reminded me to look at the origins of the name Menzies and why it can be pronounced Mingis(s).
A good read here:
Slight OT, but interesting nonetheless.
Interesting that John Menzies newsagents should really be pronounced John Mingiss!
I like the following situation (pointed out on Balderdash + piffle show)
Separate names with a comma.