London Travel - Oyster Cards

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  1. DrPhil

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    Probably a simple question...

    Any time I've been to London before I've used single or 3 day travelcards. However this time I'll only be in town from about 2pm on Friday to 8am on Saturday. Travelcards are per day rather than a 24 hour period I believe so I think I'd be better with an Oyster card. I only actually need to make 2 journeys, from Baker Street to Wembley Central on the Friday afternoon, then from Wembley back into Victoria Station early the next morning.

    According to the fare finder site those 2 trips are about £2.80 for a single if I use Oyster, but double that if I just pay cash. So less than £6 for both trips. But am I right in thinking that I need to pay £5 for the card itself? So that kinda rules out the savings? Also is the minimum you can put on the card £10? So again it defeats the purpose. I'd have to spend £15 on the card as opposed to £12 just buying single fare cash tickets?
     
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    Just use a contactless card, same pricing as oyster.
     
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    Just a standard debit or credit card? And I use that on the entrance to the tube rather than having to buy a ticket?
     
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    As long as the card is contactless, yes tap in at tube and don't forget to tap out as well. We have actually found that it's also cheaper to use contactless than Oyster.
     
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    Yes. Wave contactless card at gate on entrance to tube and again at the same gate on exit.

    Works exactly like an Oyster card but without the hassle.

    - make sure you use same card on entrance and exit.
    - if doing multiple journeys in a day use the same card for all of them
     
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    Yep - just tap at the gate and boom.
     
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    PS You can also use card on your phone, but it can take longer to respond
     
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    Optionally sign up for a TFL account and add your contactless card to it - then you can view your journey history blow by blow and check you didn't forget to tap out somewhere.
     
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    To complicate matters, my friend only has an Irish contactless card, so he'd likely be hit by fees for using it abroad.
     
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    Do you not have a second card you could let him use just for the Tube? Oyster is a bit of a faff as you have to order in advance or queue up to purchase & unless it's changed, there's a £5 deposit to pay as well. Then you've got to preload it & mess about reclaiming funds when done.

    Visitor Oyster card
     
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    My debit card isn't contactless, only my credit card.

    For the sake of it I might just order an Oyster card in advance for him, I wouldn't worry about the deposit as I can always just keep it, I'm bound to be back in London at some stage so myself or my wife can use it.
     
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    Is getting it upgraded before you travel an option?
     
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    Possibly I suppose, we don't travel til the end of May. But probably as much or more hassle than getting an Osyter, lol.
     
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    Check his T&C's - some have no fees.

    Also if there's no minimum fee it's going to be minuscule.
     
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    Rather than ordering an Oyster Card, could you not pay for your friends travel and he could buy you a pint later?
     
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    Not with only one contactless card. He can buy a paper ticket but the costs are punishing.
     
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    It sounds like it was easier to travel around London 30 yrs ago when I lived there, than it is now.
    I suppose that's the price of progress lol.
     
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    For the sake of a few extra quid I'll just get him an Oyster card and he can give me the cost of the 2 trips. I'll keep the card for future use and I'll use contactless card for my own trip.
     
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    Sounds like a good idea
    If you use contact less through a phone once you tap out of the station it shows you the price of the fare (it did for me anyhow)
     
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    Not sure how but a mate wound up needing a paper ticket Friday night from TCR to Tower Hill, £4.90. Oyster/contacless £2.40.
    It was certainly a damn sight cheaper!

    Contactless is great once you know the rules.
     
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    It's an absolute sinch if you have our money :) Good luck buying a travel card with your 100 Franc note 30 years ago :D
     
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    Back in the day I lent my oyster to SWMBO for a trip and forget to get it back - then had to go into town to run an errand - paper return ticket cost £11 Vs £4 on contactless :(

    Afterwards I emailed TFL and they said 'no bother' and refunded me the difference :thumbsup:

    Shortly after that we got our first contactless card and the oyster went in the bin.
     
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    :confused:o_O:confused:o_O

    What I mean is 30 yrs ago you went to the machine, let it know which zone you wanted and how many tickets you needed. Single or return, job done.

    Not sure why you think I was being paid in French Francs while living in London either (or N.Ire for that matter).
     
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    It's even simpler now - you just tap the contactless card and go - no more pre buying anything or whatnot for most.

    The main issue above stemmed from a foreign currency contactless card so I was just giving a like for like on your 'easier back in the day' comment :)
     
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    Seems fine for individual commuters, but there's quite a few tourists using the Underground who don't travel alone as per this thread. I may have misunderstood, but from what's been said above, if you can't buy 2 tickets in 1 transaction it's a pain rather than simple. Do they still have ticket machines, and if so, are these priced differently from contactless payments?

    I still don't get your like for like comparison in relation to my post. :)
     
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    If each traveller has their own contactless credit or debit card they are done.

    If one doesn't they will need to buy a paper ticket at one of the many machines (at a higher cost than contactless) or get an oyster.
     
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    Not very family friendly. Could I pass my contactless card to one of my kids to tap to pay after I've paid? 4 of us have cards, 1 doesn't.
     
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    No, one card per transaction. You can't tap in again until you've tapped out. Or at least not until some time has passed, in which case it will be assumed that you've made the longest (most expensive) journey possible & billed accordingly.

    But then contactless/Oyster doesn't know it's a child travelling so will bill the adult fare. Unless of course the child has a child's Oyster.

    Under 18 travel
     
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    Depends on age - my lot are all under 11 so go though on my card. Probably should start researching what happens over 11 soon :)
     
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    So in effect I could end up paying more for my youngest than my own fare? Seems a bit daft to me.
     

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