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Discussion in 'Projectors, Screens & Video Processors' started by jlcrawford, Oct 24, 2003.

  1. jlcrawford

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    Hi
    Thiis probably for Roland but for an easier life I am considering looking to put a limo into my Bg808s does anyone know the price new(ish) or have one second hand?
     
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    Edited out gibberish due alcoholic confusion, my apologies,
    Paul
     
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    Actually my question was more about functionality and performance than anything else.


    Gordon

    Equally intoxicated though.................
     
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    LOL, what else are Friday nights for....!?

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    Isn't the limo a line doubler? :confused:
     
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    Ok, I admit to possibly being confused here - there's LIMO, LIDO and then there's IRIS.

    I'm mixing up LIMO with IRIS! Been a long day, ignore me! I'll edit my original post and blame the drink!

    To make amends, just had a quick look and the LIMO (Internal Line Multiplier) is approximately £500 new but Roland will be able to give you a better idea of the cost of a s/h board.

    Please post easier questions on a Friday night, either that or I'll have to start giving up my "medicine" ;) ! Any questions about functionality and performance should be directed to Mrs PaulB who will be only too happy to spill the beans :zonked:

    Paul
     
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    Wouldn't you be better off with an external line doubler or am I missing something? :confused:
     
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    There were essentailly three versions of line doubler scaller that barco put together. they only fitted into later model projectors but for now I'm just going to give the options for the BG808s that you have.

    The Barco "LiDo"
    Is a fairly simple but effective line doubler. its sits on a par with the Iscan Pro. it would treat composite, Svideo component and RGB sources and line double them. there were various levels of software and it is important to get V1.10 or macrovision will look pretty nasty.

    Barco realised that line doubling for some of their bigger CRTs wasn't enough so they introduced a doubler/quadrupler
    This was called the "LiMo" for line muliplier.
    On an 808 it looked pretty good but a bit soft
    there were essentially 4 modes
    525/626 progressive (32khz) @50/60hz (line doubled)
    1050/1250 interlaced (64kz) @ 50/60 hz ( line quadrupled)
    525/626 progressive (64Khz) @100/120hz (line doubled and frame doubled)
    1050/1250 interlaced @ 100/120 hz (quadrupled and fame doubled) looked very nasty and soft)
    This was a good board but on most projectors line doubling was not enough and frame doubling did not give a film effect more HDTV. the quadrupled pictures always looked soft.

    "LiMo Pro"
    is the current version that barco fits to the Cine series. it will just slot right on into an 808s and will give most of the fuctions certainly the ones that you need for viewing, there are just a few demo things like split screen etc that are a bit iffy.

    Costs recon on the S hand market Lido with 1.10 software about £250

    LiMo about £300-500

    LiMo Pro just doesn't come up secondhand but last time I looked it was about £2000 list price
     
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    Thanks for all the replies though some are a little odd.
    Gordon I now use HTPC with H3D and sdi but its a bit fiddly, a bit extra noise and the wife is totally lost with it and my memory of a 7 series Barco running I presume Limo pro at the Event 1 was\about as good as either my(old) Rock or H3d put out.So a limo would probably have been easier with not much trade off.
    Roland I kinda knew you would be the definative answer but am afraid that I would only want a Limo Pro but for £2k that buzzing Pc will be staying where it is.That said if one comes up on the S/H market I would be interested,and thanks for the help.
    Also if you come up near to Hartlepool anytime I would like you to service/calibrate/correct my installation for me if possible.
    Cheers
     
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    I think Barco set the LiMo price artificially high to prevent us refubishers putting it in the older projectors
     
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    Jeff: The Lumagen Vision product has discreet IR codes for everything under the sun, as well as an ability to auto load up resolutions and refresh rates based on incoming scan frequency. If you use a Pronto for control then it would be as simple (if not simpler) to automate than the Limo in the Barco.

    Just a thought.

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    Gordon
    How would you consider the Lumagen compares to a Rock for instance or a Vigatec. I am not ready to buy as yet but am interested in possibly changing my HTPC- have you seen the Rock Pro and is it still essentially a PC.Is the lumagen silent?
    Thanks for the help and good luck with E2 ( would love to come but not possible so I have to miss out)
    Cheers
     
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    I have seem Rock Pro. Nick uopgraded his Plus to one,. The Pro now has auto NTSC/PAL sensing. It didn't have seperate memories for NTSC or PAL inputs when I sintalled it, only per inputs type settings. It was obviously superior in picture quality to Plus. There was no posterisation that you get with the low bit depth video card used in Plus.

    Regarding Lumagen v Vigatec, One of my dealers has a client who has a Cine8. He has a Vig like the one used at Event1 in his system. It had an issue so I lent them a Vision while it was away being repaired. The dealer phoned me up to comment they thought the Vision was superior!

    Regarding Lumagen v Rock. You should find a dealer who can do you a fair demonstration after properly calibrating both devices. Rock has smooth 72Hz ability. Lumagen does other things well.(functionaility being just one) I know of at least one UK Rock owner who swapped to a Vision and was happy. I fully expect there will be Lumagen owners who have gone to Rocks and are
    happy.

    Lumagens are COMPLETELY silent. No fans and convection cooled

    Gordon
     
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    Gordon, just a quick question:-
    Does the Lumagen accept and double an RGBS signal (as opposed to pass through) and how much are they?

    Regards

    Yas
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