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lg rz42px11 and samsung hd 745

Discussion in 'Plasma TVs' started by p0rt, Apr 28, 2005.

  1. p0rt

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    Hi,

    i just hooked up my lg with my new samsung hd745 using a dvi cable.

    i have set the lg to 16:9 and also set the dvd player to 16:9. Why is it that some dvds i play still have the black borders and others don't?
    Will the black borders harm the tv? i noticed that when selecting 4:3 to view normal tv the borders are light grey.

    is it okay to select any of the dvi output modes: 576p 720p 768p 1080i ?

    any help appreciated.. sorry, very new to all this

    Cheers
     
  2. the highlander

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    i have both just like you :thumbsup: its a great DVD player .
    just play with the dvi options and stick with the ones you like ( it will work on all of them and will not harm the plasma ) you can eliminate the black bars by using EZ VIEW on the DVD player remote , that will get rid of the black bars .
     
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    do the black bars harm the plasma tho? i have read about screen burn and all that...

    Thnaks for your reply
     
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    no the black bars will not harm the plasma .
     
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    thanks
     
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    Beg to differ there. The LG is actually a bit prone to image retention, particularly when new. (nothing unusual in that, NEC and Pioneer do this too) 1 movie is unlikely to cause harm, watching continuously in the same aspect ratio will 'burn in' the brighter parts of the screen leaving visibly darker areas where the black bars are. Keeping the brightness and contrast turned down helps, how new is the screen? If it is well run in it will stand up to this much better. The bars are there because that was the shape ofthe movie in the cinema. Shrek is a 16:9 movie, no bars, Harry Potter or Lord of the Rings are 2.35:1 movies, and will have bars. Any attempt at watching without them either stretches the image vertically, making all the hobbits tall, or just loses the edges of the picture, which is about 20% to get LOTR tall enough.
     
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    Thanks for your reply maw...

    I'm beginning to think that plasma's are for show and not for watching. It's a little bit disappointing that you spend over a grand on a tv and can't watch it without being paranoid about damaging the screen...i purchased it mainly for viewing movies and quite a few are 2.35:1...

    Thanks
     
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    After the first week of use you should be fine with the image retention, most screens need running in like new cars.

    Why do they still produce films in 2.35:1 ??? It seems pointless when most people now have widescreen....
     
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    i was watching a movie with the bars last night - for about half an hour. I have had the plasma since monday, should this be ok?

    thanks
     
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    Should be fine, as long as you keep the brightness/contrast down.....

    If it had done any damage, you would have noticed by now.
     
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    I have this combo too.
    I've never worried about black bars on wide-aspect films and certainly haven't seen any image retention or burn. We watch a mix of 16:9 TV, 2.35:1 film and 4:3 shows. You can expand 4:3 to 14:9 via the scart inputs but you're still subject to the grey bars on the sides of the pic. using the DVI input we're locked to 4:3 or 16:9, but as has been pointed out, you can use the ez setup on the dvd player to change the aspect ratio. It's a good way to watch 4:3 material without the grey bars.

    Mark.
     
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    hello all...i have bought the lgpx11 after weeks off research and soul searching and like many others on this forum it began to do my nut in. im not really sure i have gone for the right tv tho. at 1400 i must say im a bit dis appointed with the picture. please can someone help. what do ppl mean when they say these tv s need to bed in or run in?? Its a week old and ive kept the brightness and contrast down around 50%. the snooker is on at the mo and its awful halos around all the balls and difficult to watch. i have an ntl box running a quality ofc scart from box 2 plasma, another scart is running the samsung dvd player. the sound is going throuh an s vid lead to the sony dig amp. the tv seems to flicker a lot from dark to light every minute or so , sometimes 3 times a minute ive also notice ghosting across the pic from bbcs final score ticker tape...help
     
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    I'm in the process of typing you a private message mate, don't worry I'll give you a helping hand...
     
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    ive noticed the brightness flicker too, bright then dark then bright then dark, W.T.F. ?

    i paid £1350 for a t.v. that is pretty much a piece of sh**.

    i suppose i get no scan lines which is pretty decent, but i was expecting better, i sold my panasonic ae200 which has the same resolution for less than £500, and bought this tv, £850 more for a screen half the size with a worse picture.........arggghhhhh, what have i done.

    i try to look on the positive side, but this tv has very little positives ??

    please help, anyone......im loading the gun right now... :suicide:


    200hrs run in, my ar**.... :thumbsdow
     
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    Ring LG or the place where you purchased it mate, something is defo not right....

    I posted the name of the customer services manager on the LG thred about a week ago, you could try giving her a ring .....

    You may just need the firmware updating :rolleyes:
     
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    I'd have thought weeks of research and soul searching would have revealed the mixed feelings about the screen. Some swear by them, others have reactions like those 2 of you. I get some stick around here by being firmly in the 'wouldn't touch it' camp, but at least some of the happy owners must be telling the truth, so check the firmware version, anything older than 5.12 is likely to be a problem it seems. Perhaps the demo ones I've seen are on early firmware.
     
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    i've got a 5.13 and everything seems fine, maybe i'm just lucky ;)
     
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    I am really p****d off! This tv is going back to john lewis asap. I have chronic screen burn after watching a movie with bars for just half an hour (this was after 4 or 5 days of use with the contrast and brightness below 50). As far as i'm concerned this is totally unacceptable. The parts of the screen where the bars were displayed are noticeably darker, i have tried white wash for about an hour and it makes absolutely no difference. As far as i'm concerned this is not due to misuse, if you can't actually watch a movie on the tv for half an hour there is a serious problem. I bought this tv to watch..

    Sorry for the moan but i'm really gutted! Does anyone know if it will be easy to return it to john lewis? i have only had it for 5 days and am not interested in getting a replacement.

    Cheers
     
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    I would be angry too. JL are a decent bunch, be polite but as firm as necessary, that works for my customers. Your experience is not typical of plasma, here goes for a flaming, but you get far fewer problems with other makes, and better performance too, and surprisingly little extra cost. And ask yourself why only places like Currys and department stores sell the LG, but none of the specialists, AV sales, myself, TMF, Liam at progressive AV. We all avoid them like the plague.
     
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    Hi Maw,

    Thanks for the advice. I have spoken to john lewis and they are in the process of arranging collection. What plasma would u recommend? I have a budget of up to about 2000 (and after this experience am now considering a rear projection or lcd)

    Many thanks,
    Chris
     
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    For £2k, you could make JL's day and get a Panasonic Viera, that'd be a direct replacement for the LG. But do you have and do you want surround sound? A PW7 panel, a surround amp, and 5.1 speakers can be had for £2k.
     
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    5.14 here and its fine , i don't get any screen burn or brightness problems on the set .
    i would also be unhappy if my set gave me the symptoms some of the people are having here ( what firmware is your sets ) if i did it would be going back .
    i have had mine just less than a month with 340 hours on the clock and things have improved picture wise (TV) after a week or so , as with the connection with DVI (HD745) is fantastic.
    it looks like a few duff sets are about and its disappointing to see , but i am not getting those problems here .
     
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    mines 5.18 and no problems as yet. Had it a week and am delighted with the quality. No screen burn and solarization etc is minimal. Just look of the draw althought how come mine is 5.18 and some people who are still getting 5.13 and below?
     
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    No screen burn problems with mine either, I find it hard to accept that you can get chronic screen burn after watching a film for half an hour, I've watched several movies with black bars and not seen any problems whatsoever. It's very easy to blame the fact it's an LG for this but let's not forget it's a Panasonic panel at the end of the day. Frankly what LG have done for the money is fantastic, I've had a few plasmas in my time and this one doesn't seem to be in anyway inferior to the previous Panny and Pioneer ones I've had, in fact in many respects I'm happier with the picture on this than I was on the others!
    Hope you get things resolved to your satisfaction anyway p0rt, do you suffer from rainbows, if not how about a DLP set as they're 'immune' from screen burn.

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    zandy1,

    I can assure you that i only watched the movie for half an hour and it has definately burned the bars into the screen (why would i not be honest?)
    I am considering a themscene 50 inch dlp, going to demo one next week...

    Cheers,
     
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    I cannot understand why you didnt want a replacement screen and then if that was the same you could have then looked into other technologies
     
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    ver 3.09 i play xbox racing games all the time for long periods and movies etc etc and never had screen burn,
    image retention for 2 mins after playing xbox or letterbox movie for around 2 hours but no worse than that
     
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    Zandy, LG make their own panels, this is absolutely not anything to do with Panasonic!
     
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    LG do make there own panels but to my understanding this is a panny panel built under license with LG extras like XD engine ect
     
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    Built by LG. Not by panasonic. All LG technology is ex panasonic as I understand it.
     

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