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LG RZ-42PX11 V Hitachi PD5200 worth £500 more

Discussion in 'Plasma TVs' started by PSD, Feb 23, 2005.

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    Hi all,

    This will be my fist plasma purchase and the first problem I have come up against is that none of the TV's I have looked at look very good. This is because Curry's and Comet just connect them up via an aerial and all you see are rubbish TV pictures. Why do they not set up some decent DVD players via component!!!

    In terms of choice the LG looks very good but the Hitachi does have a slight edge and has better reviews. I just wanted to get peoples feelings about whether the PD5200 is worth the extra £500-600?

    Any advice is appreciated.

    Thanks

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    thinking of buying the lg,read a LOT of threads here. mostly good
    the 1 reply that sticks out, was from a retailer ,comparing pannys to lg,s..He did not go into details?
    "Dont buy the lg..no matter what" (but i cant say why)
    so just a spoiler or maybe not
     
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    Was that me you were thinking of? I only refrained from a total slagging as there is such a thing as libel, you may think this is liberty hall, it's not. Spectre is liable for anything we say, and could hold us similarly liable, or more likely just delete anything too infamous. There are indeed a lot of threads, about 75% of them complaining about PQ and listing endless new firmware. I don't sell LG, through choice, not because I can't. Anything with a return rate above 5% is a lossmaker in plasma these days, it's simply not economic. Being a custom installer, I have a lot more interface with my clients than JL, Richer, even AV sales (they don't sell them either for some reason. In fact Alastair and I would disagree on few subjects) If I sell a screen with a duff picture my clients will express their extreme disappointment to me in no uncertain terms. I sincerely believe them to be not of merchantable quality for my clients, why should I wish them on you lot, who tend to be even more demanding of your kit.
     
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    "In many respects,.... annihilates every other 42in plasma screen currently at the sub-£2000 mark,..."

    "... you'll find it difficult to justify spending more"

    Home Cinema Choice, Issue 114 April 2005, p69
     
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    OK so why do so many complain, why do they resort to PC scaling to make their picture acceptable?
     
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    hi all

    just wanted to throw tuppence worth in here because I know I've spent a few weeks mulling over the same or similar decisions.

    I was starting from scratch - my knowledge about plasmas has been accumulated almost exclusively from these forums - therefore I obviously have to bow to the infinitely superior knowledge of MAW, hornydragon, and, er, almost every other user on here!

    I demoed what I could, where I could - and for a variety of reasons, I have just taken delivery of an LG at the weekend.

    And I have to say i'm absolutely chuffed as a monkey with it. Sitting watching the Barca Chelsea game on it right now, in fact.

    If you can read the Huuuuuge LG thread without losing the will to live, you'll find a equally huge range of opinions on it but the more I looked at it the more I realised that the people who had taken delivery of the newer model with the latest firmware all seemed to be happy.

    And now I can see why. It's got great connectivity, and if you follow the settings and service menu advice provided by some of the supremely clever operators on here, the picture is terrific. To my uneducated eye, at any rate.

    I guess it all boils down to what you want. I did like the look of the PW7 and obviously most people on here do, but my wife fancied the idea of a "telly" replacement, ie, speakers, etc, so she could just switch it on and watch.

    I also liked the price, liked the idea that I didn't have to pay extra for a desk stand, or for extra connections. I;ve got my sky via a QED RGB sqart, my DVD through QED component, and there's still plenty of space left for more if I want, including DVI.

    what's worth remembering on here is that the professionals are exactly that, whereas most people I know are mere amateurs who just like watching TV and maybe don't quite see the subtle nuances that guys like MAW see.

    All that matters is that YOU like what YOU see. Everyone's advice will be different and as with anything else the advice of professionals will always be more valuable but sometimes it's worth asking a layman as well, since that's what most of us are.

    bear in mind I've only had mine for five days as well - I might have my foot through it by next week if anything goes wrong!

    But for the moment, don't be afraid of it. You might be pleasantly surprised.

    Cheers
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    BTW one other plasma manufacturer comes in for my scorn, on grounds of reliability and lack of customer service, though to be fair they've smartened up a bit recently. You've guessed it, Hitachi.
     
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    no offence, i suspected you could not say too much on here
    but even with the very latest update,which cures certain pic problems!!
    Have lg sorted it out ,or does it all boil down to long term reliability
    of the conponents ???
     
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    Just buy a PWD7 and everyone will love you and the world will be a better place! :rotfl:
     
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    None of the LG's I have seen have induced me to change my opinion, I would simply avoid stepping in them. I have not been able to check firmware versions mind, so there could be truth in the 'it's all sorted now' brigade. Long term reliability, not possible to say, there's no evidence its poor though.
     
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    MAW,

    I would appreciate it if you ever see one of the newer LG PX11 panels i.e. latest firmware 5.XX, if you could let me know your opinion...

    Thanks Gordy for your useful advice....
     
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    hi i have had both screens in my home for an extanded period but the lg went faulty and i replaced it with the hitachi
    the lg is very good but the hitachi is the best screen i have seen other than a pioneer (better than the panasonic etc)
    if you can get the hitachi it is better.
     
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    Had the LG and the word to note there is HAD, never was very happy with the PQ so no have a panny PW7 and its superb! The LG went back.....
     
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    Hi there, yes I've seen the latest firmware on a screen, a couple of weeks ago. My comments on LG stand unchanged, I won't sell LG panels, too much customer dissatisfaction, too many returns, no manufacturer backup, poor PQ. Sorry guys, I hate the things, nothing but hassle from a retailer point of view.
     
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    MAW,

    I'm a real newbie here, but know a pic I like if and when i ever see one, know this is off topic but what sensibe priced 37 or 42 plasma would you recommend?. anything from samsung that you'd go for? (I get discount from them) or just recommend away

    any advice greatfully accepted




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    Samsung, personally no way. If you are looking for a bargain, it's with panasonic at the moment, how can you go wrong at £1250
     
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    So at the risk of being a further pain,

    If I want HDMI and a good pic which Panasonic would fit the bill? (sensibly priced that is) and (again at the risk of the wroth of a plasma specialist) does the PQ compare to the Sagem 45 DLP ?

    Just seems that the sagem at 2k with 5yrs guarantee and HDMI etc is a better bet than a plasma at the moment in terms of PQ and plain old VFM.

    Totally lost at the moment and suffering "sweet jesus what to do, what to do syndrome"


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    I had one of these (LG RZ-PX4211), I was never happy with the PQ and as a result of various faults I returned it and ended up getting the 32" version Hitachi PD5200 and to be honest it is 10 times better that the LG in terms of Sky PQ. The dvd PQ on the LG was damn good but this is matched by the Hitachi.

    There now seems to be 2 versions of the LG an older range and the new 5.x range so if you do go for the LG please make sure it is the latest version. I had the older version and it suffered severely from flickering, white freckles, solerisation and screen burn is more apparent.
     
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    Don't know if it's the same level of service/support for their plasma screens but I've had the frustrating experience lately of trying to get any sense out of LG Customer/Technical Support for a DVD/VCR combi I purchased for the bedroom.

    Inaccurate info over the phone, no call backs when promised, 16 DAYS to respond to an email (and it contained incorrect info). Not impressed!

    I purchased a Hitachi 42PD5200 a few weeks back, took heed of the settings recommended on this forum and have no complaints; PQ is excellent when viewing decent source material, built in sound is surprisingly full, looks gorgeous and I'm sure that when I swap out my Pio DVD-717 for a Denon 550 soon (prog scan/component) I'll be spending far too much time watching films....

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    I've got a 717 and the picture compared to the cheap pio 575 I got is rubbish. The picture from the 717 is so bad but the sound is so sweet.

    Also component on the 575 does improve the pic so a Demon 550 will make that 717 so bad. I can't explain how bad the 717 is for pic compared to even new cheap players.

    Your in for a treat upgrade in PQ terms, hope the sound will be good enough!

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    To be honest the picture coming out of the Pio 717 I never thought of as too bad so I can't wait to upgrade to the Denon! Reviews I've read suggest the audio is pretty good so hopefully an aural (sp?) as well as a visual treat...

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    I now have an LG RZ42PX11 TV, and I can say that the picture is more vibrant in terms of colour, BUT, the Hitachi won hands down in terms of reproduction of DVD films. Just try and test both screens side by side and the Hitachi coped with the demanding high speed high contrast image and the picture was razor sharp and colours were true to life. HOWEVER, that's the end of the good news. The bad news is that within 13 months it developed annoying screen burn and also the manufacturers have put the screen coating on the outside, which soon wears away if you clean your screen (which I did due to kids hand prints etc). I have read elsewhere that Hitachi's ALIS technology means that these plasma's are prone to screen burn, and to replace costs a whopping £1200.00 parts only and no labour! I have since sold that and purchased an LG screen, but the skin tone colour settings mean that people often look like they have sun tans.

    My two pennies.
     
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    Yikes!

    Screen burn? Wearing away of screen coating? I'm not liking the sound of that. Thankfully the kids have grown up so not too much need to wipe away smudges, have got the screensaver on and NEVER leave it whilst the image is static so hopefully it won't be too soon before I'm pulling my hair out....

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    Lazyoaf, I don't think the Sagem has HDCP, though it does have a good functional DVI. The Panasonic supports PAL video at 50Hz with HDCP, so will work with digital DVD players. It does not support the upcoming skyHD format, it needs a fairly expensive Piece of kit to get a picture from that.
    Hitachis are the most prone to burn in of any of the mainstream plasmas, I think it's cos they are brighter than the sun rather than anyhthing to do with ALIS, which was originally developed to combat burn in on commercial displays.
     

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