Hi I see the LG RH7500 (80gig) RH7800 (160 gig) are available in Europe and the RH7800 seems to be nearly identical in features to the upcoming Sony HX710 but with the added advantage of Optimised recording from HDD to DVD. http://www.lge.com/catalog/prodmode...400000&globalCode=DR7800&globalSuffix=000000# My big question is whether there is simultaneous recording and playback on the same drive (apart from the timeshift of the same program) . I got a copy of the manual and it will only state that: "Playback and recording for both DVD and built in hard disk drive (HDD) are completely independent. For example, you can record to either the DVD or HDD source and play back video from the other source at the same time. 1. Start recording. 2. Press HOME to display the Home Menu screen. 3. Use the v / V / b / B and ENTER buttons to select a different media type that you want to play back. 4. Start Playback. The recording will continue while playing back the media from the other mode." I'm suspicious that they say for example - do you think they mean you can't do it on the same drive? Any help appreciated before I think of purchasing! The Sony HX710 can definitely do the above.