LG OLED - B8 vs C8 price to performance difference

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    1. leedspokerguru

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      Would love to hear opinions and reasons behind your answers for this.

      In your opinion at what price difference does the C8 become "worth it" vs the B8 in picture performance? As it stands amazon says the difference between the two models at 55 inches is £500 & at 65 inches is £600.

      Does screen size effect your answer in anyway?

      What are your price thresholds for the 2 variants?

      Thanks
       
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      Picture performance is identical.
       
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      It’s just not I’m sorry.

      In isolation, they are both incredible.

      Side by side, the A9 processor in the C8 is noticeably better.
      25% brighter, 7.5x more colour, noticeable noise reduction, noticeable depth improvement, better motion and crisper upscaling.
      Saying they’re identical is doing the C8 a massive disservice.
       
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      To answer your question, the C8 is a better tv - no question. Whether or not the C8 is ‘worth it’ rests purely on your perception of good value.

      We tackled the same question here
      Question - LG OLED 65B8 or 65C8?
       
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      I have a 65" C8 but would not pay a £600 premium for it. You're not going to have the sets side by side at home (obviously) and I'm sure I/you'd still be happy with a B8. £600 would pay for my Sky Q package for a year!
       
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      That would be my inclination too and largely seems to be backed up with other posts I've read.

      No doubt the C8s processing is "better" on identical panels but at what price does it become worth it?

      If that £600 premium became £300?
       
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      I paid the extra when it was £250 difference. I don't think I would have if it were £500.

      But while everyone's talking about the better image processing on the C8, I feel a short mention should be made of the sound - the way the C8's stand curve bounces the downward-facing speakers out to give a surprisingly good impersonation of an Atmos soundbar is rather impressive, while I wouldn't rely on the B8's audio for anything above very basic TV watching.

      All that only counts if you actually use the stand, of course; if you're wallmounting then it's less relevant.
       
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      £329 was the difference for me. I do think if it was much more I'd have gone with the B8 though.

      However I took delivery of my 65 C8 on Saturday and can't say I'm disappointed. My budget was £2,000 so had to stretch an additional £129.

      I must say that I'm impressed with the sound performance as well. Wasn't expecting a lot but actually getting the Atmos effect which is really surprising. Not sure if it's TV being wall mounted?

      As per sagaris99 post regarding the other thread this was the exact same predicament I had.
       
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      Hi just been to John Lewis this morning and had a look at the 55 inch B8 and the C8 side by side i know you can not really tell in show room conditions but they booth looked stunning. The B8 was £1199 and the C8 £1799 I know the C8 is concidered the the superior tv but really at £600 more.
       
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      If the difference is only £320 then I’m guessing the answer would be to get the C8 is it???
       
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      Possibly but not sure.
       
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      That's right around the point where it's very hard to say. It depends on exactly how picky you are about image quality and whether you would use the better sound.

      Mind you, I suppose you wouldn't be looking at either if you weren't picky about image quality.
       
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      Another difference not yet mentioned is for calibration. With the lower processor the B8's LUTs are 17x17x17.
      With the A9 processor the C8's LUTs are 33x33x33.

      Which means that even though the underlying panel may be the same, you can get better results with the larger LUT (even if you only ever used the factory-supplied LUTs and don't get a calibration done).
       
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      For me it would have to be the B8 at £1,200. I couldn't bring myself to spend 50% more on the C8. I would save that £600 and put it toward (mentally, If not literally) my next tv.
       
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      I’ve just managed to buy a 65” B8 for a little over £1600 so for me the C8 is not worth it at £900 more. Delivered tomorrow, can’t wait.
       
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      Purchased it from Very as a new customer with 10% off so got it for £1619.
       
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      Thanks. I looked at Very but wasn’t too keen on their warranty policy which states if you have a problem with the tv you have to take it up with LG rather than them. Hopefully being a new telly it won’t go wrong but you just don’t know. Good price though, hopefully it will be fine.
       
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      Let’s be honest, if we develop burn in, no retailer will help regardless of warranty and we will all have to turn to LG for assistance.
      I’d just take the retailer to a small claims court if I develop a fault ecause i certainly won’t be abusing the B8.
      I believe it’s consumer law that within the first 12 months it’s on very regardless of what they claim.
       
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      It is - but the very fact that they put those illegal terms on their website is worrying. There are not enough resources to keep all these crooks in check: for every one strong consumer like you who knows to take them to court, there will be another 100 customers that they rip off, and lie to - and will believe them when they say LG are the responsible party. This misinformation and non-correction of it is bad for consumer rights long-term. They are the retailer, the contract is with them.
       
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      I think I'm bollock's now as I bought the 65 B8 only 8 weeks ago for £2229. It's now available for £1799! The C8 is now going for £2229 same as I paid for the B8. So I am hoping there really isn't a difference! Its hard to keep up with these discounts.
       
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      Here's a rough guide. Here in the UK we get smaller discounts for a shorter time.
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      Interesting seeing that even with this price variation over last few weeks @65" it always seems like £500-600 difference remains constant
       
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      I've not seen a review yet where a B8 has not been able to be calibrated to below humanely perceptible errors.
      Where the bigger LUT should be an advantage is colour gradation but I couldn't tell a difference without turning on the C8's colour filter which also engages Noise reduction.

      With HDR brightness there is a difference especially with instore demo's in Vivid mode where the C8's electronics can push the panel to produce peak highlights 25% higher.
      But again it's much closer in the Cinema mode with D65 white calibrated. Both vincent and rtings measured a 80Nits difference between the C8 and B8 in HDR real scene peak brightness.
      80Nits is the minimum differential required for humans do detect brightness level change in HDR according to rtings.
      So yes it's noticeable but again in side by side comparison I had to really look for the difference and then the difference was just in the peak highlights, the rest of the scene was identical.
      My big thing is motion handling but I couldn't see a difference in the two sets.
      Web OS smoothness couldn't tell a difference.

      So we also need to consider that the C8 can do 4k HDR and HFR at the same time but the B8 can do 4k HFR and 4k HDR but not 4k HDR at HFR.
      But the HDMi inputs on both sets cannot support 4k HDR at HFR so the feature is of limited value apart from if apps ever support this.

      There is the sound to consider but I'd think not many buying a such a high end TV will use onboard sound but some may. It's certainly not a consideration for myself.

      At £250 difference or lower I would have gone for the C8. At my time of purchasing the advertised difference was £700 and the actual £500.

      That's why I went B8.

      So it's down to the individuals requirements and the price difference at the time.
       
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      I’ve been reading about the colour gradation on B8. Has anyone noticed any issue with that? I don’t want to see any steps in colour ideally.
       
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      On very low quality content, it’s noticable.

      I tried the b8 vs c8, on a Bruno Mars video on YouTube, paused at the same time and the gradation of black to White was banded on the b8, smooth on the c8.
      I also played a 4k hdr version of Lucy, in particular the scene at the end. There was an explosion where the b8 showed a clear gradation step by step of white, to yellow, to orange, to red. Not bad, but seeing the smooth flow of colours on the c8 made it clear the difference that the LUT and noise reduction has.
       
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      Ok thanks, the gradation of colours is something I never really liked too much on my current oled so not too keen on it on another set.
       
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      How does the burn in issue compare on both?
       
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      The same risk factor as each other.
       
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      Following on from the typical price cycle attachment.

      65 C8 going on Hills for £2200
      65 B8 at Very(10% off for new customers) can be had for £1619

      Given we're expecting prices to keep falling from end of this month to march is the gap between the 2 models every going to narrow or is it going to be more of the same ie falling prices with that 500-600 difference.
       

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