Question LG audio out to hearing device

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  1. tamo59

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    Hi I am fairly new here and have a hearing problem .

    Here is my issue : I cannot connect the red while phono to jack on my IR hearing device and have it work.
    Here is what works : using an optical cable from my sky box to the receiver with the switch on the receiver set to optical OR using same optical cable from TV to receiver by setting the TV settings to output optical ( by doing this it works but no one else can hear the TV )

    Ideally what I need to do is connect red white audio out from TV ( or use a SCART with red white yellow ) to the receiver and have the TV audio settings to TV speaker but no matter what I try this wont work .

    There is a switch on the receiver audio / optical and I am selecting the correct setting .

    If myself and family are watching programs through sky everything is fine but if I stream to my roku which is connected VIA HDMI I cant use my hearing receiver and also the same applies if I plug a USB stick into my TV .
    In other words no sound is outputting via phono from TV to my hearing device no matter what settings I chose .

    Sorry if this is long winded and hopefully explained well enough .

    I am not new to technology as I have been into PC building for years .

    EDIT :MODEL 47LN5400 Manufactured 2013

    Thanks
     
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    The red and white RCA connectors use the same audio format as the 3.5mm jack so you can plug it into a headphone socket too. I don't know whether your TV or receiver would play through that as well as the speakers though, it varies by model.
     
  3. tamo59

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    Are you suggesting 3.5mm jack to 3.5mm jack at both ends from TV to receiver ? I'll check the TV for a female 3.5mm jack socket .
    I can try the RCA ports on another TV and see if that works . If it does it rules out a fault with the receiver and points to a fault with the RCA / SCART connector set up on the LG ( I think ) .

    Thanks
     
  4. tamo59

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    There is no 3.5mm jack socket on this TV.
     
  5. JayCee

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    There is according to the user manual, have you checked the rear connection panel?
    All phono sockets on your TV are inputs, not outputs.
    Any scart socket on most modern TV's will usually output the TV's internal tuner.
    It will not output anything from equipment connected by HDMI or USB.
     
  6. tamo59

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    I have downloaded the manual and there is no 3.5mm jack on this TV .
    95 % of our viewing is via sky box so the optical connection is fine .
    I have a mic with my receiver kit as a last option for the times I use connected equipment like roku or USB .
    If I am streaming from laptop to TV I will use 3.5mm jack from laptop to receiver .

    It looks like there are no audio outputs on this TV other than optical .

    Thanks for your help
     
  7. NicolasB

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    This isn't exactly a cheap solution, but could you get some sort of sound bar that can be fed from the TV's optical output, and then feed your receiver device either from an output on the sound bar, if there is one, (e.g. a headphone socket), or by using a splitter device upstream of the sound bar to send the same optical signal to both the sound bar and your receiver?

    Or, another expensive option (but maybe not quite so expensive) - could you replace the Roku with something that has its own audio output (and perhaps that can also play videos from a USB stick, so you plug that into the player rather than the TV)?
     
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  8. tamo59

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    Hi ,Those options are certainly worth looking into and I appreciate your suggestions .
    For now although rather a crude way to listen I am going to use the mic supplied for the times I am not using sky .

    I am actually looking into a new TV in the coming months and i will ensure it accommodates my hearing device .
     
  9. JayCee

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    +1 for a cheap soundbar.
    Currys have one for around £40 with optical in.
    You would need to add an optical splitter and a D/A Optical convertor.
    So optical out from Tv to the splitter, one end from the splitter to the soundbar and the other to the D/A convertor then the RCA phono out from that to your hearing device.
    The splitter and D/A convertor around £15-20 each from the likes of Amazon.
     
  10. NicolasB

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    From what he said earlier, I think his hearing gadget has an optical input, so he wouldn't need the D/A converter.
     
  11. JayCee

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    Even better then [emoji106]
     
  12. NicolasB

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    Do you mind telling us what model of hearing aids you have, and what streaming device you're using?

    (I doubt that will throw up any other options, but you never know).
     
  13. tamo59

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    The model is
    swing-IR LR with neckloop receiver
    swing-IR LR
     
  14. tamo59

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    I don't really want to go down the soundbar route and maybe find myself with extra problems . Us hard of hearing people in Scotland are fortunate in that we are supplied these devices from a charity group called deaf action . When the guys came to install the device for me they said it should have worked straight from the red and white phono jacks or the SCART on the TV .
    I have a work around in place now for the occasions where I play from a USB or Roku connected from to TV by having the supplied mic pick up sound from TV speakers .
    Not perfect but for now it will do .
    The vast majority of our viewing is via sky box for which I use the optical connection.
    There is a switch on the receiver to flick from optical to phono/mic .
     
  15. JayCee

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    And it would providing your TV had analogue audio output and if all you wanted to watch was your TV's built-in Freeview.
    Sounds as though these guys need to brush up on their knowledge of modern TV's connectivity.
    Anyway, good luck and glad you've found a workaround.
     
  16. simonlewis

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    What about something like this, won't this do.
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  17. tamo59

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    I have one of those + UGREEN RCA Audio Cable, 3.5mm Stereo Jack to 2 RCA Phono Y Audio Splitter Cable 2m for Surround Sound,Dolby Digital, DTS,Speaker with RCA Connector ,G Ive tried using phono jacks directly to the red white to 3,5mm jack on the receiver . Also used the red white on the Scart adaptor with no joy .

    Its interesting because when I change the TV to Antena via input select which as you know will be freeview TV tuner the same problem occurs .
    This is making me think there could fault with the hearing device receiver .

    I am going to try the same set up on my sons TV upstairs which is a 2016 4k HDR . Mine is ancient compared to his so ill let you know
     
  18. NicolasB

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    That would do him if the TV's SCART socket functions as an output when the TV is generating its own signal; but given that there's only one SCART socket on there, I suspect it's purely an input.
     
  19. tamo59

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    NicolasB you are correct . I tried the phono/SCART connections on a more up to date TV and it works . Don't tell my wife but this is my excuse to upgrade .

    Any recommendations for my budget of around £850. I know in today's market this is not a lot of cash for a quality TV so I guess i,m looking at just above entry level

    Correction : I tried the phono/SCART connections on a more up to date TV and it works EDIT ( DID NOT WORK ) it was the mic that was picking up the sound .So as corrrectly advised it looks like analogue is input only on modern TV,s
     
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  20. JayCee

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    Yeah, and we don’t know if the OP has an aerial connected to the Tv or just watches his Sky box?
     
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    Just bear in mind any phono sockets you see on your Son’s TV are probably inputs not outputs, the same as your own.
    All TV Manufacturers have done away with analogue outputs on their TV’s completely nowadays.
    Also as NicolasB suggests the scart socket may well be input only.
    There’s an easy way to test your hearing device, just connect to any equipment with phono L/R outputs DVD player, Blu-ray, DAB radio etc.
     
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    I do have an aerial connected and get freeview but don't ever use it I only use the sky box or stream movies from laptop or plug in a USB .
     
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    Great Idea .
     
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    The Hearing device is fine . I connected from my phone to receiver via 3.5mm jack flicked the switch to audio and its working .
    So to summarizes ( with my very limited AV knowledge) the phono and SCART on my TV are input only .

    Thank you all
     
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    There is an entire separate forum dedicated to answering that sort of question:
    Which TV Should I Buy?

    While this has nothing at all to with your current problem :) if I were you, I would look into whether your hearing aid manufacturer makes a wireless device for your hearing aids. Induction-loop devices tend not to have particularly good sound quality, and necessarily produce only mono sound. Some more proprietary solutions allow better-quality streaming in stereo; they can also often handle Bluetooth, which is great for phone calls.

    Or, if your hearing aids are old enough to support Direct Audio Input via audio shoe connectors, that can produce very good sound quality too - almost certainly better than using the T-coil.
     
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    Thanks , I agree I am looking into a wifi TV and to buy my own wifi listening device .
     
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    Hi there, I'm looking to do the same. I have a soundbar that needs optical output from my TV but want to split that optical to feed a D/A convertor to then feed a hearing aid transmitter. Just wondered if you had any recommendations on the splitter and D/A converter from Amazon please? There are dozens of them!
     
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    A brand of optical splitter and convertor I've used successfully is “CYP”
     
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    Panasonic TVs tend to have a separate volume control for their headphone socket cf the main speakers. So it may be worth researching that as a 'feature' you can utilise to feed your device on various makes of TV?

    Action on Hearing Loss (was the RNID) may be able to help/advise on likely solutions as well as (hopefully) a list of friendly TV sets.
     
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    Thanks for that, I'll look at their stuff.

    Thanks for the advice. Sadly my TV doesn't have a headphone output itself hence why I want to use a DA converter that provides a headphone output which I then connect the hearing aid transmitter to.
     

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