LG 8K OLED

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    1. spinaltap

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      When will it ever end?

      "Dear, you know that shiny new OLED we literally just bought for the new house? Old hat now. Need an 8K one."
       
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      Presumably the manufacturers are waiting for the first piece of commercial 8K media to be available and then launch their 16K models? :facepalm:

      I really don't see the point of pushing 8K yet when there is really no media available and the 4K market is still so new. If they keep pushing higher and higher res displays, it will fragment the market and people will stop buying because they know their purchase will rapidly become obsolete.
       
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      Right, this sounds about time for a Jurassic Park quote I reckon:

      "Your scientists were so preoccupied with whether or not they could, they didn’t stop to think if they should"
       
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      Ok, so I want to click like, agree and funny, but I can only choose one of those
       
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      who do I send my money to :)
       
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      I wonder if the people who said Samsung producing a 8k TV was ridiculous are the same people holding out their money for an 8k OLED. ;)
       
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      It'd need to be a ruddy huge display for you to physically be able to appreciate those 33 million pixels...and I guess that to stream 8k material, you'll need a 100+ meg internet connection. Streaming 4k off of Netflix requires 25meg and to be honest a normal 1080 Blu-ray upscaled is preferable to my eye over anything 4k and streamed.
       
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      15.25Mbps for 4K Netflix and Amazon Prime. 4K Apple TV needs 25Mbps.
       
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      You don't have to buy it. If you are happy with 4k then don't bother. Manufacturers want to make money by getting you to upgrade a perfectly good tv for a new one. I'm still using a 1080p Plasma and Projector and won't upgrade until the HDR10+ vs Dolby Vision is over or TVs have both.

      It's the same with mobile phones.
       
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      Somebody on here will buy one just to run grey slides on it.

      #forumhero
       
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      LG should be focusing on how to improve their current 4K OLED TV panel uniformity, which is the biggest compliant with customers, rather than bringing out silly 8K OLED TV on the market, this just a marketing gimmick to compete with Samsung 8k LCDs.
       
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      Which in turn was a marketing gimmick from Samsung because they didn't have anything to compete with OLED panels so they thought they had to go one better.

      I'd be surprised if all the manufacturers don't have 8k and possibly even 16k panels designed and in prototype, waiting for the time the market is right, which I don't think it is yet.
       
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      Considering LG, and others, aren't exactly great with processing for lower than 4K resolution on OLED as is, I dread to think what it'll look like on their 8K variant.
      I would've hoped that seeing people make posts for TV series/films that have blocking, posterization, banding etc. aka digital mess were gone by now and not getting reintroduced with new sets. It's all well and good saying you can't expect magic from the new UHD sets with lower resolution material but then expect people to buy them and wear this without feeling something of a twonk?
       
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      What TV do you own or are you merely speculating?

      Do you have 2018 LG OLED? Have you seen how the TV processes lower than 4K resolution?

      I have compared 1080p Blu-rays on both C8 and 802, and to my eyes, they look similar.

      The problem with LG OLED is they are less forgiving with some compressed contents. Same applies to Panasonic to an extent. The comments about how the LG handles lower bit rate contents are exaggerated.
       
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      Err, isn't 8K a waste of time for most people as they won't be able to sit close enough to a normal size TV to see the extra detail? Maybe in the future when we all have laser projectors filling our wall with a massive 120" image, but in the mean time surely it's a waste of time for 65" TVs or below?
       
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      8k is not a viable technology right now, it's a gimmick. A 3D, curved screen type gimmick, probably worse as it's something that doesn't really work from a pipeline perspective.

      Digital cameras only have 8k sensors, which are used for 4k content. You would need greater than 8k sensors for 8k content. Physical media doesn't exist to store the uncompressed footage at movie length. Broadband infrastructure is typically not sufficient to stream it unless it's greatly compressed, rendering the whole enterprise worthless. But that hardly matters because even uncompressed you'd need an absolutely huge screen to have any chance of being able to discern 8k from 4k at a normal viewing distance.

      The sentiment I hear expressed most often is that it's HDR, not the image quality of 4k, that makes the difference over the 1080p era. 8k brings a raft of disadvantages with no practical upside in a world that can't make use of it. It exists to sell TVs and nothing else.
       
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      I have friends/relatives with LG and Panasonic OLEDs.
      Comparing 1080P blu ray is all well and good with those sets but against native 1080P set and broadcast material left me underwhelmed and gave me serious pause for OLED.
      If you feel comments are exaggerated that's fine but looking at threads daily you see negative comments, for example, someone posted today in Panasonic thread how his 952 mullered Midnight, Texas to the extent it was too distracting to enjoy.
      Any way, next year will tell if LG have improved their processor for 8K or just stuck what they have now on it.
       
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      Ironically, the best sources for 8K material are probably old movies, shot on film and without digital effects, as these can be scanned at high resolution.

      Most modern stuff has been shot at 2K and the digital effects are often the same resolution due to the increased rendering time and cost of doing them at a higher resolution.
       
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      Size also matters. Poor source and bigger screen sizes won't gel well.

      My 50 inch Plasma performed better with poor sources than my 65 inch OLED but it is not a like-for-like comparison.

      You will find more negative comments in the forums as people like to rant and criticise (including myself). Live TV (non-HD) looks poor on my LG but HD sources look fine. Maybe the Sony does a slightly better job but it is nearly £1200 more than what I paid for my LG.

      Thankfully I seldom watch DTV. Just YouTube, Netflix, Prime and 4K/1080p Blu-rays.
       
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      I hope it takes off.
       
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      What kind of lag would incur with games lower than 4K which is almost every console game. There are a few native 4K games. Theres going to be some serious upscaling muscle on. Xbox One X fares a little better but come on.
       
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      As an owner of a 10 year old Samsung LE46A656 that I thought by going for 100HZ would future proof our TV viewing in 2008.
      Now looking to buy a new TV in the next three months this thread is scary ;)
       
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      All in the name of progress....

      I'm enjoying my LG 65C8, 8k is miles of.
      4K isn't even mainstream yet, but getting there.
      Even Digital TV broadcast are not all fully 1080p yet LOL.
      8K streaming services will require serious bandwidth -which majority of the UK doesn't yet have.
      But this is what happens in technology land, it just keeps on going on and on and on and on and on.

      Full HD1080p standard lasted the longest in terms of time. 4K is on the verge of being widely accepted. 8k next year is a few years too soon in my opinion, but that's ok I'll just keep the new C8 for about 5 years then and see what's out there before going through the endless upgrade cycle :)
       
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      I expect the technology and the bandwidth will get there eventually. Live is certainly feasible.
      PAL I think ;)
       
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      Oh the age old PAL standard :cool: of course you are probably right, I was thinking more about the "HD era" when I said 1080p lasted the longest :smashin:
       
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      It really is just bragging rights! I'm sure some celeb footballer will stick one on their wall to impress their mates and convince themselves that everything suddenly looks better because it's being upscaled to 8K.

      Completely pointless tech for the home.

      @nallon0401 "it's a gimmick. A 3D, curved screen type gimmick"
      How very dare you!! :p
       
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      1080i50 for the UK was the main broadcast from stadia etc. They dropped REC601 of course. UHD went straight to p, US was or is 720 as a standard? Mixed bag of p's and i's..... 50 or 25, 1080 or 720. Pick a number.....

      I choose 4320p100
      :)
       

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