Leaf II announcement due tomorrow, who's waiting up?

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    What sort of deal did you get, if you don't mind me asking?
     
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    26k for the Tekna with Pro Park assist (£400 extra)

    They give you £1000 deposit contribution & £1000 cash back as well.

    I was happy with the deal obviously because I placed my order
     
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    Guessing you purchased outright / with a loan rather than any sort of pcp deal?
     
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    Yes, no PCP, PX my old car and cash
     
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    Are you after PCP deals ?

    Carwow is great for getting deals
     
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    Looking on the Nissan site it looks like we could get the equivalent model to our Mk I Acenta for the same monthly PCP charge. But it would require a £6000 deposit :eek:. For them as in the know, would our less than one year old Leaf on 3 years PCP have any usable collateral in it? Or should we wait for the Leaf III :)
     
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    just curious - only 6 months into a pcp on our older leaf :)
     
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    Curiosity is apparently dangerously contagious :laugh:
     
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    Am sure your love the car :).

    I'm keen to replace my wifes hybrid with an EV so we can go fully electric but the new Leaf is simply too similar to our old one for us to drop £20k+ on one, especally given my wife car is fully owned with no finance, and been essentially a Toyota with her doing about 5K a year running costs are minimal. So I think we are going to sit and wait to see how the market develops over the next 2-3 years, we have a Model 3 order but will be no rush to confirm.

    As much as a shiny new EV is tempting I think it wouldn't be atleast 2020 before we get our next EV. Let us know what you make of the Leaf :).
     
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    People do need to think about their annual mileage carefully if getting an EV just to save money.

    You need to do your sums right, my gas guzzling 7 seater People mover only costs around £500 in diesel a year to run. So it would take approx 150 years to break even if I bought a Tesla X to replace it :D

    Seriously though, our Leaf wasn't worth it for fuel saving alone, but far from an inconvenience, the convenience of never having to visit a petrol station was high on the list. There are no petrol stations between Mrs IG's work and home any more... Driving ~10 miles (round trip) just to fill up was getting silly. Now she just drives home and plugs it in.
     
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    Now, there's me doing ~18000 mpa, with possibility of free charging at work, I'm so very very tempted .....
     
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    No brainer then, one of our members used to get/still gets works mileage too and it paid for the car :thumbsup: But factor in charging points, that's still hanging on a thread.
     
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    I found myself configuring one up as a potential for a second car. I must admit I quite like the look of it in Pearl White / Black.

    Comes pretty complete; for use the auto parking isn’t worth it. Have had it on our last three cars, perhaps used it twice and only to demonstrate.
     
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    @paulyoung666 Home charging is so cheap compared to filling if your doing 18K a year its a no brainer - I worked out you need a combustion car to better 150mpg in the real world to be cheaper to refuel. The With the new 40kWh car having double the range of my old 24kWh car living with on is much easier.

    18K in a Leaf will cost about £650 in electricty costs, not sure how far £650 will go in your current combustion car. Don't forget no road tax, no oil changes, no worries about emissions come MOT time, no cambelt, no gearboxes/clutch, overall running costs is tiny compared to your current car.

    @dejongj The Leaf is a great way into EV ownership. It lets you 'try' an EV for not much financial compared to some other brands, the Leaf is about reliable as any car comes and on a PCP deal you don't need to worry about deprecation.....its why I went for one without much hesitation:).

    Just be warned though once you try an EV you wouldnt want to drive anything else!
     
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    This will indeed be an interesting development. We've already seen on Fully Charged that Shell have recognised and starting to manage an entire change programme here, beginning with facilitating electric cars. But with a lack of other worthwhile reasons to stop at a 'modernised' Shell station, will they survive?


    This seems almost infeasibly cheap. I take it this is with a split tariff and overnight charging?

    I've calculated my little pocket rocket costs between 16 and 20p/mile to run, depending on if it's a local journey or a bit more of a run. 18K miles would cost at least £3K in petrol.
     
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    Have a play around with the website below

    Fuel cost calculator UK - Calculate and compare fuel consumption

    We do 20000 a year and it's showing as £780. That is 13p kwh without any overnight tariff. Until a month ago we were actually on just less than 10p. It really is that cheap to run it.

    Our calculations came in at the car costing us around £70-90 a month on a pcp deal once fuel savings and mot etc were factored in
     
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    According to that I could save, purely in fuel cost £2,850 per year...So as we tend to keep our cars for three years, that is a mere £8,550 just in fuel. Then there is a further £1,090 in road tax. And then servicing is another about £500 difference. So about ~£10K difference in purely running costs over 3 years...Hmm food for thought!
     
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    Nope thats normal rate. Once you take into account charging loss the Leaf manages around 4 miles per kWh.

    18K miles will need 4500kWh of electricity.

    Standard electricty cost is about 12p per kwh, which comes out at £540 in fuel costs, so actually cheaper than my initial guss.

    If you charge using cheap overnight rate you can reduce that cost again - it cost me less than £300 to do 14K in my old Leaf using overnight charging!!

    If your doing big annual miles and EVs have the range the running costs saving really do almost pay for the car :).
     
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    Ours is 15.5p/kWh. I'm a low user on low standing charges. That would be set to change significantly!

    My other issue is that I've always bought used cars. Going to a new EV is quite a kick in the wallet, and my annual mileage has been in decline in the last 5 or 6 years. I don't think I'll get to 10K this year.
     
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    LOL I just showed it to my wife - she gave me this look like well yeah you are comparing it to my AMG of course it will be cheaper to run..."Then a tiny little win, turning around but I guess all car replacements will go electric won't they...Perhaps we should give in and look into it" :)
     
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    Even at 15.5p/kWh fuel costs are minimal compared to a combustion car. The old 24kWh did have limits when it come to range, and you do need to consider the range issues for long trips. However as range goes over 150 miles the limitations quickly fall away. Even a 30kWh used Leaf is a improvement on the original car I had for usability.

    12 months with the Nissan Leaf....far from perfect, but it's the future :)
     
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    Has she driven an EV before? If not I suspect your have a open door to push against.

    My wife gave me her blessing for getting the Leaf as it replaced the 335i, and she even contributed to getting the Tesla. There was 0% chance of her been happy with me dropping £70K on a M5/AMG let alone contribute her own cash.....EVs really are a win-win for everyone, wife happy for getting an economical/'sensible' car, and me happy for other reasons ;).
     
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    She hated the Prius we used to have. But no, never driven a full electric vehicle. But she loved our Nissan Murano and quite liked our Patrol as well. So from a brand perspective I don't have to push to hard, she appreciates what Nissan can actually do and bring to the table...

    I just specced up an e-Golf to the similar level of the Leaf II - and it can't even get close - yet it is already a whopping £39K....Hmm I think a trip to the Nissan dealer is due :)
     
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    @gangzoom , that would save me £100 / month in diesel by my reckoning , but then of course there is the possibility of free charging at work , I might just get me a test drive lined up .....
     
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    Holy smoke, the Tekna for £22K is a bargain :) Don't get why the 2.Zero is so much more as it is a lesser specification if I am not mistaken...
     
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    Our IS300H feels a million miles away from the way any EV drives. Am sure she'll love the Leaf.

    The low running costs of EVs is what makes alot of people look at them, but once you try it the driving experience is why people end up loving them.
     
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    Damn that Tekna for £22K is a steal. From CarWow the cheapest quote I've had is £30,445 for a Tekna with White/Black pain job, and even though I rarely use it I did tick the pilot parking. So fully loaded from what I can see...

    I'll book up test drive shortly...
     
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    Anyone know what this E-pedal is all about? Sure it does regenerative braking if you take your foot off the accelerator, but surely it has a brake pedal still?
     

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