LE-A656 settings thread *Part 3*

Mumid

Well-known Member
Calibrated HD and SD settings for LE40A656, firmware 1023.0

Note: These settings are calibrated for a dark room viewing environment. If the settings are too dark, you can simply up the backlight.
These settings were done on a 40" A656. As can be seen from the different settings on this page, one persons calibrated settings can greatly vary to the next. The settings are for reference only. They may or may not be accurate on other sets - they were calibrated for my set alone.

HD REC709 Settings:

Charts -

(all CIE76 delta errors below 3.2, all CIE94 delta errors below 1.5)
2uep46c.jpg


Settings:

NOTE: There are two sets of settings here, firstly there are new settings I have just done using in my opinion better techniques in order to calibrate the colourspace. These techniques are using CIE94 to calculate the colour errors, using 75% IRE colour patterns and with adjusting my secondaries so they fall in line with my actual primaries. In my opinion the CIE94 calibration is more accurate. I have left the CIE76 settings up anyway for reference.

CIE94 calibrated settings:

Mode: Movie
Backlight: 3
Contrast: 98
Brightness: 46
Sharpness: 0
Colour: 52
Tint: 50/50

Black Adjust: Low
Dynamic Contrast: Off

Gamma: +1

Colour space:
Red 21 0 0
Green 46 41 0
Blue 0 10 30
Yellow 45 45 0
Cyan 49 46 45
Magenta 23 0 33

White Balance:
R-offs 25
G-offs 25
B-offs 24
R-gain 28
G-gain 25
B-gain 23

Colour tone: Warm1
Size: Just Scan
Digital NR: Off
HDMI Black Level: Normal\Greyed out for component, Low for RGB 16-235, Normal for RGB 0-255.
100hz Motion Plus: Off (Can be set to 'Low' for non film based material)
Blue Only Mode: Off

CIE76 Settings:

Mode: Movie
Backlight: 3
Contrast: 98
Brightness: 47
Sharpness: 0
Colour: 52
Tint: 50/50

Black Adjust: Low
Dynamic Contrast: Off

Gamma: +1

Colour space:
Red 25 0 5
Green 39 46 0
Blue 0 9 31
Yellow 45 45 0
Cyan 39 45 43
Magenta 20 0 37

White Balance:
R-offs 25
G-offs 25
B-offs 24
R-gain 29
G-gain 25
B-gain 21

Colour tone: Warm1
Size: Just Scan
Digital NR: Off
HDMI Black Level: Normal\Greyed out for component, Low for RGB 16-235, Normal for RGB 0-255.
100hz Motion Plus: Off (Can be set to 'Low' for non film based material)
Blue Only Mode: Off

SD PAL settings:

Charts -

(all CIE76 delta errors below 3, all CIE94 delta errors below 1.1)
nvtw8l.jpg


CIE94 Settings:

Mode: Movie
Backlight: 3
Contrast: 98
Brightness: 47
Sharpness: 0
Colour: 52
Tint: 50/50 (Greyed out)

Black Adjust: Low
Dynamic Contrast: Off

Gamma: +1

Colour space:
Red 23 0 0
Green 34 42 0
Blue 0 10 30
Yellow 47 46 0
Cyan 37 46 44
Magenta 29 0 34

White Balance:
R-offs 25
G-offs 25
B-offs 25
R-gain 28
G-gain 25
B-gain 23

Colour tone: Warm1
Size: Auto Wide
Screen Size: 4:3
Digital NR: Off
DNIe: Greyed out
HDMI Black Level: Greyed Out
100hz Motion Plus: Off (Can be set to 'Low' for non film based material)
Blue Only Mode: Off
Energy Saving: Low (Optional, I prefer a lower backlight for SD)

CIE76 Settings:

Mode: Movie
Backlight: 3
Contrast: 98
Brightness: 48
Sharpness: 0
Colour: 52
Tint: 50/50 (Greyed out)

Black Adjust: Low
Dynamic Contrast: Off

Gamma: +1

Colour space:
Red 16 0 6
Green 28 33 0
Blue 0 8 19
Yellow 44 44 0
Cyan 28 38 39
Magenta 11 0 25

White Balance:
R-offs 25
G-offs 25
B-offs 25
R-gain 29
G-gain 25
B-gain 21

Colour tone: Warm1
Size: Auto Wide
Screen Size: 4:3
Digital NR: Off
DNIe: Greyed out
HDMI Black Level: Greyed Out
100hz Motion Plus: Off (Can be set to 'Low' for non film based material)
Blue Only Mode: Off

Device Setup

Here is how I have my devices setup:

Xbox 360:

For this I use PC mode in order to have the most minimal lag possible.

(HDMI cable into HDMI2)

For games, HDMI2 named PC, Xbox 360 Reference Level = Expanded, Colourspace = RGB.
For HD movies, HDMI2 not named PC, Xbox 360 Reference Level = Standard, Colourspace = Rec709.

PS3:

(via HDMI)
Video Settings:
BD\DVD Video Output Format (HDMI) set to Automatic.
BD 1080p 24 Hz Output (HDMI) On.
Display Settings:
RGB Full Range (HDMI) Full
Y Pb\Cb Pr\cr Super-White (HDMI) On
TV Settings:
HDMI Black Level Normal.

There is no need to change settings between games and movies as the PS3 will automatically switch between them.

Calibrated settings for firmware 1022.0 - http://www.avforums.com/forums/9335562-post787.html

Calibrated settings for firmware 1015.0 and below - http://www.avforums.com/forums/8378061-post82.html
 
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EarthRod

Distinguished Member
My User Settings for the Samsung LE40A656 - Standard Def & High Def

Standard Definition (SD)

Suitable for DTV Freeview, Sky+ box etc. No Service Menu settings have been changed. These settings are for all firmware versions.

Picture menu
Mode: Movie
Backlight: 3 (Sky+: 2 or 3)
Contrast: 85 (Sky+: 70)
Brightness: 45
Sharpness: 5
Colour: 45
Tint: G51/R49 (Sky+: G50/R50)

Detailed Settings
Black Adjust: Off
Dynamic Contrast: Off
Gamma: 0
Colour Space: Custom
Flesh Tone: 0
Edge Enhancement: Off
xvYCC: Off

Custom Colour Space Red|Green|Blue
Red: 32 | 0 | 0
Green: 21 | 27 | 0
Blue: 0 | 0 | 38
Yellow: 48 | 13 | 0
Cyan: 16 | 19 | 38
Magenta: 34 | 0 | 40

White Balance
R-Offset: 26
G-Offset: 25
B-Offset: 25
R-Gain: 13
G-Gain: 25
B-Gain: 15

Picture Options
Colour Tone: Warm1
Size: Auto Wide
Screen Mode: 4:3
Digital NR: Off
HDMI Black Level: Normal
100Hz Motion Plus: Low
Blue Only Mode: Off

Setup Submenu
Entertainment Mode: Off
Energy Saving: Off


High Definition (HD)

Suitable for blu-ray players, DVD Upscalers etc. No Service Menu settings have been changed. These settings are for all firmware versions.

Picture menu
Mode: Movie
Backlight: 3
Contrast: 90
Brightness: 45
Sharpness: 0
Colour: 52
Tint: G50/R50

Detailed Settings
Black Adjust: Off
Dynamic Contrast: Off
Gamma: 0
Colour Space: Custom
Flesh Tone: 0
Edge Enhancement: Off
xvYCC: Off

Custom Colour Space: Red|Green|Blue
Red: 23 | 0 | 0
Green: 0 | 38 | 0
Blue: 0 | 0 | 43
Yellow: 43 | 43 | 0
Cyan: 0 | 46 | 48
Magenta: 27 | 0 | 45

White Balance
R-Offset: 26
G-Offset: 25
B-Offset: 25
R-Gain: 13
G-Gain: 25
B-Gain: 15

Picture Options
Colour Tone: Warm1
Size: Just Scan
Screen Mode: 16:9
Digital NR: Off
HDMI Black Level: Normal
100Hz Motion Plus: Low
Blue Only Mode: Off

Setup Submenu
Entertainment Mode: Off
Energy Saving: Off

The above user settings might also be suitable for the A686 range and different panel sizes.

Alan
 
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marcodj

Member
Hi all.

I use the Mumid settings for FW 1022 and now today the 1023 is out.
And the settings are::thumbsup:

My question to mumid is.
Do you need for each firmware a other calibration?
or the settings for Firmware 1022 is also good for 1023?

Many thanks.
 

Curly99

Distinguished Member
Hi all.

I use the Mumid settings for FW 1022 and now today the 1023 is out.
And the settings are::thumbsup:

My question to mumid is.
Do you need for each firmware a other calibration?
or the settings for Firmware 1022 is also good for 1023?

Many thanks.​
why not just try the settings as before and report back your findings.

Curly​
 

youngsyp

Distinguished Member
Settings:

Blu-Ray

1023Blu-RayRGB.jpg

1023Blu-Raycoltemp.jpg

1023Blu-Raygamma.jpg

1023Blu-RayCIE.jpg


Mode: Movie
Backlight: 3
Contrast: 98
Brightness: 48
Sharpness: 0
Colour: 50
Tint: 50/50

Black Adjust: Mid
Dynamic Contrast: Off

Gamma: -1

Colour space:
Red 38 0 0
Green 35 46 0
Blue 4 3 40
Yellow 49 47 0
Cyan 37 48 48
Magenta 34 0 43

White Balance:
R-offs 25
G-offs 25
B-offs 25
R-gain 25
G-gain 25
B-gain 25

Colour tone: Warm2
Size: Just Scan
Digital NR: Off
HDMI Black Level: Greyed out
100hz Motion Plus: Off
Blue Only Mode: Off

Contrast ratio = 2574:1
White level = 102.96 cd/m2
Black level = 0.04 cd/m2
Average gamma = 2.25

Sky HD/SD

Charts -

1023SkyRGB-1.jpg

1023SkyGamma-1.jpg


Settings:

Mode: Movie
Backlight: 3
Contrast: 98
Brightness: 46
Sharpness: 0
Colour: 50
Tint: 50/50

Black Adjust: Low
Dynamic Contrast: Off

Gamma: -1

Colour space:
Red 25 0 0
Green 35 41 0
Blue 0 21 32
Yellow 49 45 0
Cyan 36 44 43
Magenta 30 0 36

White Balance:
R-offs 23
G-offs 25
B-offs 23
R-gain 25
G-gain 25
B-gain 22

Colour tone: Warm2
Size: Just Scan (HD) 16:9 (SD)
Digital NR: Off
DNIe: Greyed out
HDMI Black Level: Greyed Out
100hz Motion Plus: Low
Blue Only Mode: Off

Contrast ratio = 2557:1
White level = 102.26 cd/m2
Black level = 0.04 cd/m2
Average gamma = 2.21

See xls attached for revised service menu W/B settings.

Paul
 

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youngsyp

Distinguished Member
1023.... :eek: There goes another couple of evenings... :D

Up until now, I've personally found slight differences in picture settings post FW update. As a result, I've re-calirbated my panel after each update.

Paul
Hi all.

I use the Mumid settings for FW 1022 and now today the 1023 is out.
And the settings are::thumbsup:

My question to mumid is.
Do you need for each firmware a other calibration?
or the settings for Firmware 1022 is also good for 1023?

Many thanks.
 

marcodj

Member
1023.... :eek: There goes another couple of evenings... :D

Up until now, I've personally found slight differences in picture settings post FW update. As a result, I've re-calirbated my panel after each update.

Paul

Yes.
I can not watch TV because every week their come FW updates and i must change the settings:D
 
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youngsyp

Distinguished Member
I don't see anything wrong with your English. It's certainly better than my German and dare I say it, better than a number of posts I've read on here from English posters... :smashin:

Paul
My english is not so good my german is better:D (Lothar Matthäus) sorry for my english:(
 

Curly99

Distinguished Member
I don't see anything wrong with your English. It's certainly better than my German and dare I say it, better than a number of posts I've read on here from English posters... :smashin:

Paul
got to say I have to agree with you there Paul, thing is you can choose to ignore them..I have to read them bad spelling grammar and all ;) :)

Curly
 

marcodj

Member
I don't see anything wrong with your English. It's certainly better than my German and dare I say it, better than a number of posts I've read on here from English posters... :smashin:

Paul

Thank you.
Also my LE46A656 is an UK Model and absolut fantastic:smashin:
I ´ve bought it in Germany but it is an UK Model.
I have the HD settings from mumid and now im waiting for the SD settings because in germany we have only 4 HD stations:thumbsdow
 
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Mumid

Well-known Member
Hi all.

I use the Mumid settings for FW 1022 and now today the 1023 is out.
And the settings are::thumbsup:

My question to mumid is.
Do you need for each firmware a other calibration?
or the settings for Firmware 1022 is also good for 1023?

Many thanks.

I usually do a new calibration for each new firmware but they are generally pretty similar. I will post up some new settings hopefully later and put them helpfully in post #2 i reserved earlier! I will do some sd ones too.
 
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youngsyp

Distinguished Member
I think that's a very fair comment to make and just to add, the majority of the changes are probably un-noticeable to the naked eye too.

Paul
I usually do a new calibration for each new firmware but they are generally pretty similar.
 

richajax

Standard Member
I just did the update and everything went ok except the auto power on. (known issue ?)
All my settings (Mumid) are still as they were :confused:

Can someone tell me how to check the firmware version ? Samsung couldn't :(
 

marcodj

Member
I usually do a new calibration for each new firmware but they are generally pretty similar. I will post up some new settings hopefully later and put them helpfully in post #2 i reserved earlier! I will do some sd ones too.


Thank you for the info.

Now i am waiting of your perfect settings:thumbsup:

I have a question for you mumid:
What is the difference about Black Adjust and HDMI Black Level?
I have the Black adjust setting high and the HDMI Black level setting normal about your setting.
What is if i set Black adjust setting off and the HDMI Black level setting low?
What setting is better? or is it the same?
Thanx

Marcodj
 

BName

Banned
I just did the update and everything went ok except the auto power on. (known issue ?)
All my settings (Mumid) are still as they were :confused:

Can someone tell me how to check the firmware version ? Samsung couldn't :(

The last update i did never altered my settings either.
You have to go into the sm to see which version you have if your not sure.
 

BName

Banned
Where is the new fw update ?
 

youngsyp

Distinguished Member
The FW updates don't physically change the settings in the menus. They alter them at a software code level. With that in mind, you'll not physically see any changes unless you can perceive the subtle differences in the pictures produced.

Paul
I just did the update and everything went ok except the auto power on. (known issue ?)
All my settings (Mumid) are still as they were :confused:

The last update i did never altered my settings either.
 

BName

Banned
On the Samsung.co.uk website, where they always are. :smashin:

Paul

Found it now thanks i was looking in the wrong place. Just did the update and all looks good what has it changed though .
 

EarthRod

Distinguished Member
The FW updates don't physically change the settings in the menus. They alter them at a software code level. With that in mind, you'll not physically see any changes unless you can perceive the subtle differences in the pictures produced.

Paul

Code level? Hi babe - you speak my language. What you doin' tonight? ;)

Er...where was I? Oh yeah - the previous update carried out (1022.0) reset all the user settings but this one did'nt. Nobody else posted user settings being reset.

I remember Paul that you posted a FW update done where the TV hours run shown in the service menu reset to zero.

Howzat! Caught in the slips!? :D
Alan
 

vali23ro

Standard Member
hi guys.is there any way to keep the setting that i have, after entering the service menu? every time i enter service menu all settings switch to default, also is there another way to get out of the service menu without putting the TV in stand-by?
 

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