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LCD 32" Comparison : Sharp, Philips, Toshiba, LG

Discussion in 'LCD & LED LCD TVs' started by tasaf, Mar 16, 2005.

  1. tasaf

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    I would like to have a detailed comparison between 4 leading LCDs :
    Sharp LC32GA4E, Philips 32PF9986, LG RZ-32LZ50, Toshiba 32WL48
    regarding picture quality in some aspects:
    1. Deinterlacer
    2. Scaler
    3. Sharpness & Noise (usually when noise reduction applied it hurts sharpness)
    4. Response time
    5. Live Colors & color tint
    6. Contrast & Black level

    Usually people just say better PQ, but it has so much aspects. I tried to write the most important aspects of PQ.
     
  2. Deep-6

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    Hi, just out of interest, are you expecting to find someone who owns all these sets to write a detailed comparison for you?
     
  3. mickbarlow

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    If ya that bothered in order of my preference.

    Toshiba 32WL48 - if ya want best of all worlds
    Philips 32PF9986 - if ya afford it
    Sharp LC32GA4E - if ya can find one
    LG RZ-32LZ50 - only if someone gives ya one

    but then you could still consider Philips 32PF9976, or even check out the ACER, Relisys, & Video7 displays which may suprise you.
     
  4. domtheone

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    Nice summary

    lol on the LG comment :D
     
  5. jimg

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    Unfortunately it has never been done and will probably never be done! I am afraid that while you sit on the fence, you will find that by the time you make your mind up your preferred list be will obsolete, replaced or just sold out! I have watched while people have pondered and pondered over the Sharp only to discover that they were too late and found it sold out. You need to make your own mind up, by reading the posts here and more importantly looking at the sets yourself and then going for it!

    Your list is accurate. perhaps you would like to evaluate them? ;)
     
  6. tasaf

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    LG RZ-32LZ50 is not a brilliant device but it is OK.
    First, it shares the same panel with the Philips 32PF9986 (some of the panel are Sharp`s and some are LG.Philips S-IPS). So, response time is fast (16ms). and color accuracy is very good.
    Second, It has DCDi - so its deinterlacer and scaler is a good one.
    Its main problem is that it has too smooth video.

    Toshiba 32WL48 has a Red tint. Its color is not as good as Philips`.

    Sharp deinterlacer is not that good.
     
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    Hmmm Mick you never mention Sonix in your reco's??? I must have put you off it ;) :suicide:
     
  8. jimg

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    Tasaf,
    Are these comments based on your observations or from other sources? I am interested in your comment on the Sharp, can you elaborate further please?
     
  9. mickbarlow

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    sorry no i forgot it, are they readily available?
     
  10. mickbarlow

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    nothing against the LG's PQ but it doesnt have dvi or hdmi, which totally puts it out of the reckoning, imo of course
     
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    My local store has loads but I have no ideas nationwide on stock availability sorry :(
     
  12. tasaf

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    Jimg,

    Yes, it is my observation. I also can tell that I do not like the idea not to be able to change color temprature with the LG (PAL input).

    Regarding the Sharp, I can say that I realy like its color and saturation. Especially, when it comes to skin color. However, its deinterlacer is not that good. It is very noticeable when ther is horizontal object and the edge jumps from line to the upper/lower line. I saw this in some shops so I do not think that it is an environment fault.

    I know that LG products specification varies from country to country.
    For example, in Germany it does have DVI-I:
    http://de.lge.com/prodmodeldetail.d...entId=01&modelCodeDisplay=RZ-32LZ50&model=13#

    Some have scarts and some not.
     
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    Please note, that I bought the LG and am about to return it. The seller sold it as 15:9 panel 1280x768 and I got 16:9 1366x768. And indeed, in Austrailia there is a 15:9 LG panel with RT prefix. I find the 15:9 panel better for 4:3 cable broadcast and for HD 1280x720, I might lose some lines but I spare the scaling.
     
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    32" LCD TV
    32"PVR IDTV




    * Available Feb. 2005
    [UK: LGB-32TPVR / Germany: LDE-32TPVR / Italy: LIT-32TPVR / Finland: LNR-32TPVR]
    * IDTV(Integrated Digital TV) = Analog Tuner + Digital Tuner

    Exceeding the limits of basic TV Functions, with multiple functions
    coming together as the ultimate TV-Enter the realm of versatile multimedia.
    "Digital 2 Tuner PVR Built-in"

    + View enlargement






    16:9 Wide Digital & analog / PVR complex LCD TV
    Analog and DTT (Digital Terrestrial Television) reception
    Digital 2 tuner PVR (Personal Video Recorder) function
    Tape-less Recording - Digital Recording and Playback
    (Maximum 44 hours in the 40GB HDD without use of tape)
    USB 2.0 port connection compatibility without extension HDD
    Interactive communication via MHEG or MHP middleware
    Recording digital channel, analog channel and external AV input.
    Multiple Screen - Loaded with PIP & DS (Dual Screen) functions


    Virtual Surround audio : Multi-functional SRS TruSurroundXT
    PC grade WXGA Video resolution support (1280 x 768)
    VESA Standard Wall Mounting Support (not including bracket)
    Main RCU & Sub RCU (Support Remote Control for Children and the elderly, in addition to the Multi-functional main remote)






    Item Description
    > LCD
    Type Colour active matrix TFT-LCD
    Display Area 32" Wide
    Aspect Ratio 16 : 9
    Driver Element a-si TFT
    Display Color 16.2 M
    Resolution 1366 * 768
    Pixel Pitch 0.51075 (H) * 0.51075 (V)
    Contrast Ratio 1000 : 1
    Luminance of White 500 cd/
    Viewing Angle (CR10) 170° (H) / 170° (V)
    Module Size 760.0 (H) * 450.0 (V)
    Depth (D) 50.0 mm
    Response Time 16 ms
    > Dimension
    Width * Height * Depth 832 * 602 * 225 (mm)
    > Weight
    Net weight 24 Kg
    > Sound
    Speakers Mono / Stereo / Nicam / A2
    Audio Output 7W + 7W (Max.)
    > Power
    Supply AC 90 ~ 240V
    Consumption (working) 145W
    (stand-by) 5W
    > DTT System Resources
    CPU Sti
    FLASH Memory 4 Mbytes + 2 Mbytes
    Graphics (MPEG) & System Memory 24 Mbytes + 8 Mbytes
    EEPROM 8 Kbytes
    > Tuner (Analog and Digital)
    1 Input Connector IEC-Type, IEC 169-2, Female
    Analog Receiving System PAL / SECAM-VS Tuning
    Frequency Range 48.5MHz to 219.5Hz (VHF)
    / 529.5MHz to 816.5MHz (UHF)
    Signal Level -10 to -70 dbm
    Constellation Scale Factor 1, 2 and 4, Non-hierarchical
    > Demodulator
    Waveform OFDM
    Mode 2K, 8K
    Codes Rates 1/2, 2/3, 3/4, 5/6 & 7/8
    Guard Intervals 1/4, 1/8, 1/16 & 1/32
    > Video Decoder
    Transport Stream MPEG-2 ISO/IEC 13818
    Profile Level MPEG-2 Main Profile @ Main Level
    Input Rate Max. 15Mbits/s
    Video Formats 4:3, 16:9 letter box (Default)
    > Audio Decoder
    Audio Decoding MPEG/MusicCam Layer I & II
    Audio Mode Single / Dual mono / Stereo / Joint stereo
    > Input / Output
    Video In/Output 3 SCARTS, 1 RCA
    S-VHS Input Mini Din 4-pin jack
    Component Input RCA jack
    DVI Input DVI-D
    PC RGB Input D-sub 15 pin
    PC Audio Input Stereo Jack
    Headphone Output Stereo Jack
    S/PDIF Output Optical
    Smart Card 1 Slot
    Common Interface 1 Slot
    RS-232C 9 Pin
    HDD 40 GB
    USB USB 2.0 Capability to external HDD







    http://www.humaxdigital.com/global/products/dtv_lcd32_32pvridtv.asp


    looks good
     
  15. jimsan

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    Doesn't seem to be HDTV ready...after all that! Specs are OK - good CR, but average PR. New upcoming Philips better on both counts. Handy piece of kit though...

    Jimmy
     
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    The picture says

    HD Ready.... :confused:
     
  17. jimg

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    the humax is hd ready
     
  19. jimsan

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    Picture says that, but there is no indication that the DVI socket is HDCP enabled. I realise the HD ready logo is supposed to mean that it really is ready, but I would like to see further confirmation that not only is it HDCP enabled, but that it will also handle 720p and 1080i at 50Hz. Not all HDCP TV's do.

    Jimmy
     
  20. jimg

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    It does not need to say so, that is what the logo means!
     
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    I take it back guys! I've just dug about in the pdf, jimg, and apologise for my goof....I know now. I had realised this HD Ready logo was being proposed, but hadn't realised they'd got it sorted and that it was being used already.

    The Humax is HDTV ready! Great thing knowledge....

    Jimmy
     
  22. jimg

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    It is confusing as TV's use to sport HD ready stickers, when then they really meant the screen resolution was HD. I think it will remain confusing as Sony sets will STILL have HD stickers on them! Arrgh!!!! :eek: :suicide:
     
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    This was part of why I poo poo'd the Humax. Like you say the HD logo is everywhere and, up until now, meant very little.

    I think that you should use the 'HD Ready' logo as your squidget....you know the wee logo under your user name! This would help keep the logo in everybodys sight! Or perhaps Mick Barlow should have it instead as it was he who origionated the HDTV thread...

    Jimmy
     
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    Done!
     
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    Cool!
     
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    Im going to make myself an 'HD already' logo...
     
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    Wahay!
     
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    I have never noticed any "red tint" with the Tosh!
    Perhaps it wasn't set up correctly?

    Can't comment on color being better or worse than Philips. I find the colour very good. The colour may be worse on the Philips when it breaks down.. ;)
     
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    Hey, get off! that's mine... :D :rotfl: :smashin:
     
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    My Toshiba doesn't have a red tint either, and now I feel cheated.

    Perhaps the red tint is a bonus feature they've recently introduced?

    honestly, the twaddle you sometimes read here...
     

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