Layer change pauses in dvds

freestyle

Standard Member
Has anyone noticed layer change pauses whilst watching dvds on the ps3?

Was watching miami vice tonight and there was a very noticeable pause in one scene, will be testing with more dvds tomorrow but was wondering if anyone else has similar problems.
 

Tony Hoyle

Novice Member
DVD players do it too - at least every one I've owned has. I think it's just a property of the way DVD works.
 

freestyle

Standard Member
My old cheapy £20 dvd player used to do it, but the all-in-one surround sound i've just upgraded from never flinched at a layer change, don't recall the 360 having a problem either.

Wondering if it's the speed of the blu-ray drive?
 
Every DVD player on the market does it. It's normal, the pause is while the laser refocuses on the 2nd layer. There are only 2 factors:

1/ Where the layer change is situated. This is done by the producers of the DVD, it's possible to locate the layer change in a place where it's not noticed as much.

2/ Some DVD players can layer change quicker than others. But they will all do it to some degree..
 

Ron240

Well-known Member
2/ Some DVD players can layer change quicker than others. But they will all do it to some degree..
As bishman has just stated,the use of a buffer can minimise,or even eliminate the perception of a layer change.
My Denon 2930 has an 8Mb buffer,and i have yet to notice a layer change when watching a dvd.

But this is off topic,because the original question was about the PS3.
I have one,but have not watched any dvd movies on it yet,although i would expect the layer change to be visible,depending on the disc.
 

zoidy

Active Member
Watched a DVD (The Siege) on my PS3 the other day and didn't have a problem with layer change. I have a Sony DVD recorder and that really does pause between layers, really off-putting. But the PS3 is an excellent DVD player so will be using that for all DVD watching now.
 

fizl

Well-known Member
I've watched quite a few standard DVD's - both ice ages, silent hill, amelie plus others and I haven't seen any pause on any of the films so far

Shaz
 

ddavewoods

Novice Member
As bishman has just stated,the use of a buffer can minimise,or even eliminate the perception of a layer change.
My Denon 2930 has an 8Mb buffer,and i have yet to notice a layer change when watching a dvd.

But this is off topic,because the original question was about the PS3.
I have one,but have not watched any dvd movies on it yet,although i would expect the layer change to be visible,depending on the disc.
watched a night at museum last night, not a flinch at layer change...
 

Ron240

Well-known Member
watched a night at museum last night, not a flinch at layer change...
Well thats good then - as long as you had prior knowledge of where the layer change on this dvd was,and had previously seen evidence it on another machine,then that proves that there is a buffer and it is working well for SD DVD playback on the PS3. :)
I will enjoy watching Blu-ray on my PS3,but for SD DVD,it most definitely has to be my Denon.
 

fizl

Well-known Member
Well thats good then - as long as you had prior knowledge of where the layer change on this dvd was,and had previously seen evidence it on another machine,then that proves that there is a buffer and it is working well for SD DVD playback on the PS3. :)
I will enjoy watching Blu-ray on my PS3,but for SD DVD,it most definitely has to be my Denon.
OT - but watched that (that being night at the museum.....) on blueray last night and quite enjoyed it as a brainless film :)

Shaz
 

Ron240

Well-known Member
watched that on blueray last night and quite enjoyed it as a brainless film
Watched what exactly Shaz? :D
You would have been far better off quoting ddavewoods,because i never mentioned any DVD by name. ;)
 

fizl

Well-known Member
lol - that was my blonde moment - watched night at the museum on blueray :D

Shaz
 

ddavewoods

Novice Member
Well thats good then - as long as you had prior knowledge of where the layer change on this dvd was,and had previously seen evidence it on another machine,then that proves that there is a buffer and it is working well for SD DVD playback on the PS3. :)
I will enjoy watching Blu-ray on my PS3,but for SD DVD,it most definitely has to be my Denon.
No, the point is that i didnt have prior warning of the layer change, AND I STILL DONT KNOW WHERE IT IS, so that's good...:D
 

Ron240

Well-known Member
No, the point is that i didnt have prior warning of the layer change, AND I STILL DONT KNOW WHERE IT IS, so that's good...:D
Well in that case,my point was,and still is....you cannot be 100% sure that you just didnt happen to miss it. ;)
The only true test would be with the method i described.

To prove it to myself,the next SD DVD i watch,i will play it in my PS3 and see if i notice the layer change. Then if i do,i will note the time and playback the same point in my Denon,which will be seamless anyway.
 

Tony Hoyle

Novice Member
In a well mastered film you shouldn't notice the layer change anyway - they put it either outside the movie entirely or in a scene change, where you simply couldn't notice a short delay unless you were specifically looking for it.

Occasionally you get one where they didn't care and put the layer change in the middle of the action. TBH that's the fault of the guys who mastered it not the player.
 

Ron240

Well-known Member
In a well mastered film you shouldn't notice the layer change anyway - they put it either outside the movie entirely or in a scene change, where you simply couldn't notice a short delay unless you were specifically looking for it.

Occasionally you get one where they didn't care and put the layer change in the middle of the action. TBH that's the fault of the guys who mastered it not the player.
I completely agree with the first part of what you said,but unfortunately that is usually the exception rather than the rule.
Speaking for myself,i would never blame a player for a visible layer change,i know it is down to how the disc has been mastered,but some players are able to eliminate the perception of this change(as i already said),regardless of how the disc has been mastered.

Its not a fault,whatever way you look at it.
 
Watched a few recent dvd`s on my ps3 with no noticable layer change. Put on Three Kings the other day (which I brought years ago) and noticed an ever so slight pause half way through. TBH it`s far better than my pioneer player which has quite a big pause on the layer switch.

As other people have pointed out they are mastered alot better these days so you never notice them on more recent dvd`s.
 

ddavewoods

Novice Member
Well in that case,my point was,and still is....you cannot be 100% sure that you just didnt happen to miss it. ;)
The only true test would be with the method i described.

To prove it to myself,the next SD DVD i watch,i will play it in my PS3 and see if i notice the layer change. Then if i do,i will note the time and playback the same point in my Denon,which will be seamless anyway.
OK sceptical Mr Denon lover, I have just watched A night at the museum on DVD again, I didnt take my eyes off the screen at all, I watched the whole damn film from start to finish, and the PS3 played through any layer change that may be present flawlessly. god damn what it takes convince some people, oh and I watched Casino Royale on DVD too, and guess what, NO layer change skip there either............. geeeeeezzz, I cant believe Im actually looking for the damned layer change..
 

Ron240

Well-known Member
OK sceptical Mr Denon lover, I have just watched A night at the museum on DVD again, I didnt take my eyes off the screen at all, I watched the whole damn film from start to finish, and the PS3 played through any layer change that may be present flawlessly. god damn what it takes convince some people, oh and I watched Casino Royale on DVD too, and guess what, NO layer change skip there either............. geeeeeezzz, I cant believe Im actually looking for the damned layer change..
Calm down,nobody forced you into this. :D What i suggested to you was a fair point though.
If there is no visible layer change on the PS3 then thats great,but i never at any time said that there categorically would or wouldnt be. What i did say, was that i would expect there to be one.

I am a "Denon lover",but i am also a PS3 lover as well. ;)
 

ddavewoods

Novice Member
Calm down,nobody forced you into this. :D What i suggested to you was a fair point though.
If there is no visible layer change on the PS3 then thats great,but i never at any time said that there categorically would or wouldnt be. What i did say, was that i would expect there to be one.

I am a "Denon lover",but i am also a PS3 lover as well. ;)
Fair play, no offence intended
 

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