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Discussion in 'LCD & LED LCD TVs' started by ColdKilla, Jun 26, 2005.

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    Just had the spec thru for the new Philips!! Looks good VERY good!!!!

    Turn up your viewing experience
    with Pixel Plus 2 HD and Ambilight 2
    Enjoy the ultimate viewing experience of this Philips Cineos Flat TV with Pixel Plus 2 HD, Ambilight
    2, the latest LCD technology and motorized swivel stand. The Digital Media Reader will give you
    even wider access to multimedia content.
    Be an eyewitness
    • High-definition LCD WXGA display, 1366 x 768p
    • HD ready for the highest quality display of HDTV signals
    • Pixel Plus 2 HD improves details in standard TV and HDTV
    • 2-channel active Ambilight enhances the viewing experience
    True beauty lies in the details
    • 2 integrated NXT Monolith speakers with amazing performance
    • Matching design stand with motorized swivel included
    Perfect picture quality from your digital photos
    • USB and Memory-Card slot for instantly playing multimedia
    Advanced connection to your audio/video products
    • Most modern and highest quality HDMI and DVI-I connectivity

    32" Pixel Plus 2 HD Flat TV 32PF9830/10

    Product highlights
    LCD WXGA display, 1366 x 768p
    This WXGA display with state-of-the-art LCD screen
    technology gives you widescreen HD resolution of 1366
    x 768p pixels. It produces brilliant flicker-free
    progressive scan pictures with optimum brightness and
    superb colors. This vibrant and sharp image will provide
    you with an enhanced viewing experience.

    HD Ready
    Enjoy the exceptional picture quality of a true High
    Definition TV signal and be fully prepared for HD
    sources like HDTV broadcast, Blu-ray DVD or HDVD.
    HD ready is a protected label that offers picture quality
    beyond that of progressive scan. It conforms to strict
    standards laid out by EICTA to offer a HD screen that
    displays the benefits of resolution and picture quality of
    a High Definition TV signal. It has a universal connection
    for both analog YPbPr and uncompressed Digital
    connection of DVI or HDMI, supporting HDCP. It can
    display 720p, and 1080i signals at 50 and 60Hz.

    Pixel Plus 2 HD
    Pixel Plus 2 HD offers the unique combination of
    ultimate sharpness, natural detail, increased depth,
    vivid colors and smooth and natural motion from
    standard TV, High Definition signals and multimedia
    sources. Each pixel of the incoming picture is enhanced
    to better match the surrounding pixels, resulting in a
    more natural picture. Artefacts in compressed
    multimedia content are detected and reduced, ensuring
    that the picture is clean and razor sharp. Digital noise
    reduction ensures that the picture is perfectly smooth
    yet razor sharp.

    Ambilight 2
    Ambilight makes an impressive contribution to the
    overall viewing experience by producing ambient light to
    complement the colors and light intensity of the onscreen
    image. It adds a new dimension to the viewing
    experience, completely immersing you into the content
    you are watching. It creates ambiance, stimulates more
    relaxed viewing, and improves perceived picture detail,
    contrast and color. Ambilight automatically and
    independently adapts its colors according to the
    changing content on the screen.

    Flat NXT Monolith Speakers
    The ground-breaking NXT surface sound principle has
    been further developed into the monolith speaker
    technology It actually uses the outer surface of the TV
    cabinet as the speaker membrane. The speakers are
    now virtually invisible, bringing a stunning design, and a
    pure and direct sound radiation.
    Specifications are subject to change without notice.


    Technical specifications

    Picture/Display
    • Aspect ratio: 16:9
    • Brightness: 550 cd/m²
    • Contrast ratio: 600:1
    • Diagonal screen size: 32 in / 80 cm
    • Display screen type: LCD WXGA Active Matrix TFT
    • Picture enhancement: Digital Crystal Clear,
    Progressive Scan, 3D Combfilter, Active Control
    + Light sensor, Digital Natural Motion, Jagged
    Line Suppression, Movie Plus, Widescreen Plus,
    Pixel Plus 2 HD
    • Screen enhancements: Anti-Reflection coated
    screen
    • Viewing angle (H / V): 176 / 176 degree
    • Panel resolution: 1366 x 768p
    • Response time: 10 ms

    Ambilight
    • Ambilight Features: Ambilight 2, Auto adaptive
    to video content, 2 Channel Left/Right control
    • Color Settings: Full Multi Colour
    • Dimming Function: Manual and via Light Sensor
    • Preset modes: 2 Preset & 1 Personal color, 4
    Active Adaptive modes
    Supported Display Resolution

    Sound
    • Sound Enhancement: Auto Volume Leveller,
    Digital Signal Processing, Dynamic Bass
    Enhancement, Graphic Equaliser, Smart Sound
    • Sound System: Virtual Dolby Digital
    • Output power (RMS): 3x15W

    Loudspeakers
    • Built-in speakers: 5
    • Loudspeaker types: Flat NXT Monolith
    Speakers, Integrated subwoofer

    Convenience
    • Ease of Installation: Auto Programme Naming,
    Automatic Channel Install(ACI), Automatic
    Tuning System (ATS), Autostore, PLL Digital
    Tuning, Plug & Play
    • Ease of Use: On Screen Display, Program List,
    Smart Picture Control, Smart Sound Control
    • Remote control type: RC4310
    • Teletext: 1200 page Hypertext
    • Teletext enhancements: Habit Watch, Program
    information Line
    • Picture in Picture: Full dual screen (2 tuners),
    Mozaic, Text dual screen
    • Remote Control: Amp, DVD, DVD-R, Sat,
    Universal and Learnable, VCR
    • Screen Format Adjustments: 6 Widescreen
    Modes, Auto Format, Subtitle and Heading Shift,
    Movie expand 14:9, Movie expand 16:9,
    Widescreen, 4:3, Super Zoom, Subtitle Zoom
    • Clock: Smart Clock
    • Child Protection: Child Lock+Parental Control
    • Connection Enhancement: Easy link
    Multimedia Applications
    • Digital Content Management: Digital Media
    Reader
    • Memory Card Types: Compact Flash, Compact
    Flash type II, Memory Stick, Microdrive, MMC,
    Secure Digital, Smart Media

    Resolution Refresh rate
    • Computer formats
    640 x 480 60Hz
    800 x 600 60Hz
    1024 x 768 60Hz
    1366 x 768 60Hz

    • Video Formats
    640 x 480i 1Fh
    640 x 480p 2Fh
    720 x 576i 1Fh
    720 x 576p 2Fh
    1280 x 720p 3Fh
    1920 x 1080i 2Fh
    1920 x 1152i 50Hz - 2Fh

    • Multimedia connections: USB 2.0 memory class
    device
    • Playback Formats: JPEG Still pictures, MP3,
    Slideshow files (.alb)

    Tuner/Reception/Transmission
    • Tuner bands: Hyperband, S-Channel, UHF, VHF
    • TV system: PAL, SECAM
    • Video Playback: NTSC, PAL, SECAM
    • Aerial Input: 75 Ohm coaxial (IEC75)

    Connectivity
    • Ext 1 Scart: Audio L/R, CVBS In/Out, RGB
    • Ext 2 Scart: Audio L/R, CVBS In/Out, RGB, Y/C
    • Ext 3 Scart: Audio L/R, CVBS in, CVBS In/Out
    • Ext 4: S/PDIF digital coaxial, YPbPr
    • Ext 5: DVI with HDCP, YPbPr
    • Ext 6: HDMI
    • Other connections: Analog audio Left/Right out,
    SP-DIF in (coaxial), SP-DIF out (coaxial)
    • Front / Side connections: 2x USB 2.0, Audio left/
    right in, CVBS in, Headphone out, Multi-slot
    memory card reader, S-video in
    Power
    • Power Consumption: 145 W
    • Standby power consumption: <2W
    • Mains power: AC 220 - 240 V +/- 10%
    • Ambient temperature: +5 -/+ 40 C

    Dimensions
    • Product dimensions (WxDxH): 1000 x 605 x
    96mm
    • Product weight: 20 kg
    • Carton dimensions (WxDxH): 1061 x 768 x
    265mm
    • Weight incl. Packaging: 32 kg
    • Color cabinet: Pearl - White Silver (11092)
    Accessories
    • Included Accessories: DVI-VGA adapter,
    Motorised RC swivel stand, Wall mounting
    bracket
    • Optional accessories: 5 in one connection cable,
    Floor stand
     
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    Any news of an exact release date? Web sites are stating July 05 (ish), but when I asked at John Lewis a couple of weeks ago, they'd never heard of it??
     
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    2 HD inputs! very nice, but very pricey!
     
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    Tiz pricey yes. :rolleyes:
     
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    Philips told me august!

    Once the product is released as discussed on another thread I am sure the price will be a good few hundred cheaper from various places on the net!

    The motorised swivel base is a gimmicky addition but all the connectors are much better

    CK
     
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    To be honest, the specs used to look even better. This model was originally billed as having a 'Clear LCD' technology, with a scanning back light. This was supposed to improve Blacks massively, and increase clarity.

    It was also going to be WiFi enabled.. not sure what that would have done though to be honest (unless they built in internet radio reception etc...)

    They're now postponing the release of these new technologies until the next range of tvs early next year! :mad:

    If the TV included all the above, this would have been a great buy, but now I'm not so sure. To be honest, it sounds a similar spec as the Hitachi 7200, with the 7200 being a good £700 cheaper.

    Ben
     
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    Patiently awaiting on my 32PF9976 coming on Friday, love the styling of it so much compared to the new Philips range. :cool:

    That was a big part of my decision on this TV, also there's no real big negative posts about it I can find.

    The hidden Pixel Plus 2 is a bonus if it really exists, interested to see what the PC is like on it too as that's where a couple of negative posts mentioned it had problems with certain resolutions, as this isn't my main use of the TV i can't see it being a problem for me.

    What was the problems regarding PC input again on this TV? i have forgotten. :D LOL

    Anyone?
     
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    The unbeatable site quotes "Clear LCD" and Wi-Fi as features of the TV.

    Graham
     
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    Pixel Plus 2 on 9976 is hidden but Movie Plus (MP is the part of PP2 systems)is not and users of 9986 are recommending more use MP not PP2. PP2 causing halo effects around small moving objects (football, golf ) on SD TV picture.
    With HDTV and PP2 (PP on 9976) picture is very good (with PP better contrast, sharpness and more 3D like) and you can not find any bad effects. With HDTV 1080i DVI input there is not MP in menu only PP.
    PC connectivity (1:1 pixels) depends more on video card you are using in PC. With Nvidia 6600 and 6800 (supporting PAL 50Hz standard) series and new drivers there must not be any problems and I hope the same is with ATI.
    Only problem is only 1 input for DVI, component, PC.
     
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    Where did you get these specs?
     
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    Thanks Tont, yes bit of a pain having just 1 DVI. Will enjoy seeing what sort of output i can get out from my Radeon 98 Pro, looking forward to trying it all out. :D
     
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    I believe those specs are the old ones, and need to be updated. Like I said before, originally the 9830 was going to feature these 2 technology, but it has been confirmed that this is no longer the case. :thumbsdow

    Ben
     
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    Neither the 9976 nor the 9986 will show full screen resolution from a PC. It will not display 1366 x 768 (Pixel 1:1). Ever.

    Jimmy
     
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    So, now it seems apparent that the 9830 will NOT have this new backlight technology, can someone explain the key differences with the new model? Does anyone know if the picture will be much better than the 9986?

    I was thinking of perhaps waiting until 2006 for the new backlight, but maybe I can't wait THAT long!
     
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    • Ambilight 2 - Senses the ambient light in the room and (apparently) what's happening on screen to make a more dramatic feel
    • Connections - This tv has 2x USB 2.0 ports as well as 2 digital connections (DVI and HDMI) and memory card slots
    • Motorised stand - Lets you turn the TV at a touch of a button

    Whether this all warrants the initial inflated price is yet to be seen.

    Well, we'll need to actually view them side by side to decide this!

    Ben
     
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    Ambilight 2. This is also stereo. It will show lights left and right corresponding to what is on the screen.

    I doubt it's PQ is now going to be any better than the 9986. Without the scanning backlight I see no reason to expect a significant improvement.

    Jimmy
     
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    You might see a significant improvement with HD images on the new series. Pixel Plus 2 is a bit dodgy for hi-def - it begins by downscaling the picture to SD, then converts it to analogue, then back to digital again, then scales it back up to the screen resolution. The initial downscaling removes much of the benefit of having HD in the first place.

    Pixel Plus 2 HD, on the other hand, handles HD sensibly, without downscaling or converting to analogue.

    There may also possibly be a 1920x1080 42" screen in the new series.

    I agree that the lack of scanning backlight on the 9930 range makes it much less desirable, though.
     
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    I won't be spending my money before the introduction of the scanning backlight as I see this as having a real impact on one of the LCD weak spots. The HD stuff is all very nice but let's get the action PQ up to scratch. :thumbsdow
     
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    From where this information?
    There is not any downscaling HD images (DVI-D input) with Pixel Plus 2
    and with HD image Pixel Plus 2 has not bad side effects as with SD image.
    HD image is better (more contrast and sharpness) with PP2.
     
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    re the scanning backlight - was it not the case that the 32" version was to have the new technology, while the larger screens would not feature the upgrade? Has this been removed too now?

    I'm a little sceptical as to how likely it is that Phillips are making significant changes to the spec of these screens this close to launch, unless they're planning on delaying release. The amount of integration testing that will be done to ensure they work properly in all situations, not to mention the advance manufacturing to build up sufficient stock, surely mean the specs will have been locked down tight for some time now?
     
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    Is the 'action PQ' really all that bad? I have unfortunately not seen a 9986 in action with a good feed, so I don't have a baseline to understand what needs improvement. I currently have a 3 year old Sony CRT (DRC, so already digitally processed), so can someone tell me if there really is a problem with 'action' on LCDs like the Philips compared to such a CRT?
     
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    I think the 37PF9830 also may have a 1920x1080 resolution.
     
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    This is what the man from Philips says

    Aptura™ lighting technology
    Aptura™ lighting technology improves an image at the light source: the LCD backlight. By introducing intelligence in the backlight and installing 300% more light output, Aptura™ lighting technology shows what is wanted: true motion. High-output fluorescent lamps, operated in scanning mode, cancel out the sample-and-hold effect, which is characteristic of LCD technology. This creates the ultra motion sharpness of the
    LCD TV.

    Extreme motion sharpness
    Especially when watching action TV like movies or sports, Ultra Motion Sharpness gives great results. In a baseball game broadcast for example, there is a lot of camera movement. With a regular LCD TV this gives a blurred image, but with Ultra Motion Sharpness you will see every detail, even in the background.

    Reducing the exposure time to eliminate motion blur
    Motion blur is commonly perceived in LCD TV panels. This is due to a combination of slow crystals switching and the sample-and-hold artifact, which is present in all active matrix LCDs.
    An application of under drive and overdrive of the crystal pixels and a new scanning backlight principle for LCD TV, gives a high motion picture quality without the need for a fast liquid crystal effect.

    Superb contrast in night scenes
    Deep Dynamic Dimming is a new feature in any LCD TV with Aptura™ Lighting Technology. This not only gives higher brightness, but also ensures an excellent reproduction of dark scenes by dimming the backlight for better gray details and deeper black levels.

    Check this report out
    http://www.velocityassociates.net/pages/SIDreport.php
     
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    No, not bad at all. With good feed (HD1 1080i DVI-D) it is much better than any SD CRT (I got 36" CRT too). With good SD feed it is about the same as good CRT. With bad feed it is worse than any CRT. It looks like Philips is better than others on SD feed. Lot depends on software. 9986 started with 1.3 with lot problems. Now it is 2.4.
     
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    My 9976 has v2.5 (April 05) :)
     
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    Where is the ClearLCD information coming from???
    All the philips press statements are saying clearLCD will be first implented in the 32" model, the 37" and bigger following later this year or perhaps early 2006.
    The 32" has allready been to various shows and has been demonstrated with ClearLCD/Aptura technology.
     
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    .oO(aaaarghhhhh!!!!)

    I cannot believe it to be true that Philips 1 month before release sudently has removed the ClearLDC technology from the 32PF9830!?! It was THE major feature that made me preorder one from D&C! However - besides the posts in here, I've noticed that ClearLCD has been removed from the specs on the danish Philips site as well (and it used to be there). See for yourself.
    So now what... If 32PF9830 hasn't got ClearLCD I'm considering if I really want one or if I should go for the 37PF9986 (which will be cheaper than the 32PF9830 if bought from Germany).
    How on earth will I know for sure what Philips is doing/going to release on the 32PF9830???
     
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    Have you seen the ClearLCD technology in the flesh?
     
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    No... Unfortunately not. But from what I've read in here, people that HAS seen it live is convinced it makes a huge difference. Furthermore it sounds really promising - espacially the dimming backlight (IMHO).
     

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