Latest OS X update allows you to enable TRIM for third-party SSDs.

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  1. RoadsterUK

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    After further reading elsewhere, it does appear to have problems with several drives, including some Samsung 8** models.

    And the debate over TRIM vs onboard garbage collection rages on and is really beyond my understanding. Think I'll be sticking with the stock HDD in my 2012 Mac mini for a while longer.
     
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    Have you tried the new music app?!
    There dosent seem to be all the songs list, just albums, which isnt good for shuffle as it will only shuffle that album, not the song list, gutted.
    Plus, the radio stations arent working(as per).
     
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    Edit, found songs, click the artist, in the middle of screen, brings a drop down menu.
     
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    I've not updated yet and don't plan to. It's my little show of defiance about the removal of Home Sharing from iOS devices. :)

    That said, is iTunes much improved, or is it a case of change for change's sake (Apple Music excepted).
     
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    The music on the iphone, imo, is maybe a bit better?? the way the album is shown, whilst playing a song from it, it good, the UI, has got a bit even more ios7/8 change about it, ie, see through play, fwind, section airplay icon, with song list in a good place.seems a bit better, .
    Feels a bit fresher?
     
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    Saying that, what i dont like, is how it has the recently added at the top, it makes it feel a bit crowded, if i could dump that...
     
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    I've still not really given it a go at all, let alone start my Music trial. Perhaps I should. I can be cross about Home Sharing being gone but I can't really do anything about it (can't be doing with rolling back to 8.3). May as well jump in now.

    (Still haven't updated iPad or Mac, mind. :))
     
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    I havent started the music sign up thing, none of the stations work anyway.
    I thought that people that used itunes snatch got it for free??
     
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    Apparently not: "Apple Music and iTunes Match are independent but complementary." That's from the same membership page at Apple I linked to in whatever other thread it was.
     
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    I'm pretty sure you get Match in the price of Apple music. One thing that people have pointed out is that the match portion of Apple music gives you a DRM'd version of stuff if you download it, whereas the standalone Match works as normal.

    I won't be using Apple Music, I don't listen to music often enough, or even buy enough, to make it financially viable, and Beats 1 is a bust for me, it's just rap and hip hop every time I tune in to give it a try. Plus with DJs talking over the music, it's like the Radio 1 I abandoned years ago.
     
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    Looks like you're right. Courtesy of iMore: "If you care about DRM-free matched music on your other devices, yes, you need both. Otherwise, nope. If you have Apple Music, you don't need iTunes Match."

    Full article here. Does explain it all quite simply: http://www.imore.com/apple-music-vs-itunes-match-whats-difference

    EDIT: This has gone a bit off-topic, hasn't it?! Hopefully can all put chalked up as meaningful discussion, though.
     
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    uh, i think Match and Music are still two different things?

    Match allows you to keep everything that is "matched" because you bought it - for example it matches the high quality AAC version to the 128kbs mp3 of the CDs you bought in 1993 and ripped onto your mac - this means if you decide to cancel Match you get to keep everything you've matched and downloaded.

    with the music subscription it lets you download for offline playing or streaming anything on the iTunes store whilst you are subscribed. When you cancel your subscription to Music it means you can no longer stream any of the music.

    this is 2 distinct things?

    Match also lets you stream your music to all your devices that you've ripped onto your mac/itunes that isn't in the iTunes store.
     
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    The more I read about it, the more confused it appears. They should have scrapped Match and moved the better parts to Music.

    I don't use either. I like the sound of both. Music sounds better, so why does Match need to exist still? The end result is that I will subscribe to neither, though I suspect we'll see Match phased out in time.
     
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    Hopefully the don't scrap a standalone Match subscription. That works perfectly for my needs, and I'd hate to have to pay £10/m instead of £22/yr to keep it buy having to pay for a streaming service I don't want.
     
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    why?

    they are 2 different products?

    I rely on Match to have access to MY MUSIC on all my devices without having to worry about syncing songs, playlists and most importantly without having to worry about how much free space I have on my devices.

    I do not listen to radio.

    and I get this convenience for a small yearly fee.

    Why should I have to give that up?
     
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    Me too, match is awesome for storage, and all my tunes on any device.
    The radio subscription, seems to be a bit more ofd a commercial money spinner, i wonder if theyll have the tunes they play on the radio on loop.
     
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    As I said, it's too confusing.

    Apple's never pandered to what people want, anyway. I want Home Sharing to work in the new Music app on my iPhone. I don't want to pay for Match.
     
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    Well they seem to have hidden the match service well on the new iTunes, and stopped any use of the name match, although the plus side is that it works much, much faster. (For me at least)
     
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    Yes , seems to be called "my music " now.
    So what if you dont have match then? it just stays on one device?
    You could Airplay from the main library where you want it to go, but thats about it? without match, or whatever its called, its only in one place?
    So how is the subscription to match going to work?i havent seen a sign up for itunes match.
    How Apple Music and the iCloud Music Library work with iTunes Match
    I see, apple music is a spotify thing, able to listen to music you havent bought, as well as the music you already have, and match is just your music, in the cloud, being able to listen on any i device.
    With the caveat that the songs you redownload after youve deleted become DRM so after the subscription ends, if you dont renew, you cant listen, sneaky.(apple music).

    Still, i dont need apple music, as if i want an album, ill get it, and use match to store it and not use any GB on my iphone.
    I love it as i just hit songs, randomise...no GB on tunes, all streamed lovely(providing im not without 3g).
     
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    keep in mind that the Beats1 radio broadcast is free for everyone... no subscription needed.

    the subscription is to be able to stream on demand the iTunes catalogue
     
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    Can anyone confirm whether updating iTunes on Mac affects Home Sharing? I'm tempted to update but don't want my apple cart any more upset than it already is. :)
     
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    Yes, thanks, I'm trying to ascertain whether the iTunes update removes any more functions I use/find useful before updating. Stupidly updated my iPhone before waiting to see what issues there might be.

    I'm not updating my iPad as I can still use it to listen to music in my iTunes library on my Mac anywhere in the house. What I want to know is whether I'll lose that ability if I update iTunes, regardless of whether I've updated the iPad.
     
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    iTunes 12.2 still has an home sharing option under the file menu. Whether it works is another matter! I don't know where the block on sharing music is performed, is it on the sending device or the receiving device?

    I use match so it doesn't really affect me.
     
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    Thanks, that's great. iOS 8.4 removes the part of the Music app that allowed access to the iTunes library on a network. As long as it's still there in iTunes, then that's something. Though what use it is now is anyone's guess.

    Oddly, it's still there for videos, just not music, on iPhone.
     
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    You can still share to other computers, and Apple TV. Smart money is that it was part of he licensing deal for streaming that took it away for music on phnes and pads.
     
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    Apple TV hasn't had the OS update yet. I don't see what licensing would have to do with it – the Home Sharing function allows music you own in iTunes on a Mac or PC to be played on other iDevices while whatever machine is running iTunes and that iDevice are on the same network. It's no good for when you're out of the house, which is where Music/Match come in.
    But for what I use it for, for free, it's great.
     
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    BTW, back to the original topic, the Trim Enabler app has been updated to take advantage of the new way of working, for those who don't fancy messing around in terminal.
     
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    I did have a listen to beats radio yesterday and today, i wasnt too bad, had josh homme, from QOTSA doing a set, and this morning, i dont know who, but was ok.
     

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