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Lamps, Lamps, Lamps!!!!

Discussion in 'TVs' started by stanleyntl, Jan 9, 2005.

  1. stanleyntl

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    Why does no one mention maintenance costs for rear projection?! :eek:
    My parents recently ordered a Sony LCD rear projection from Currys.
    On subsequently finding out the associated costs, they cancelled their order at lightning speed.
    £700 every 3000hrs is absurd. :mad: (£200/lamp.£100 labour), £25 for new filters. That equates with throwing away a dear TV every 12-18mths.

    The salesman omitted any declaration of running costs, Sony brochure made no mention, and neither does What Video whenever they review such sets! :mad:

    Caveat emptor!!!! :mad: :mad: :mad:
     
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    DLP TV's are more like 8000 to 12000 hours, around £200-£250 and can fit them yourself in 2 mins...

    And CRT based RPTV's don't cost a thing.. no bulbs at all..
     
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    The point is, lamps replacement cost is never mentioned by ANY store for ANY type of rpt.

    There should be some transparency on prices, availability etc.

    If you take the two most popular dlp rpt's (Tosh & Sagem), information on lamp replacement cost isn't visible in any store or brochure.
    Ask the saleman and you simply get a blank look.

    Yet all owners of such sets will have to replace the lamp as some stage.
    who stock them? how long ill you have to wait for a replacement? why are they so expensive?

    I don't remember such difficulties (and expense) with cine projector lamps.
     
  4. stanleyntl

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    The price and hours I quote are from my local Sony Centre, who said that a technician would have to fit them. :confused:
     
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    That sounds like Sony............
     
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    Tosh : 3 year warranty which covers the lamp £170.00

    nuff said
     
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    Lee, you got that from tosh? Any links m8?

    Del
     
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    think lee got his extended warranty from domestic and general Del
    unless he put me onto a bum steer :D
     
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    Domestic & General mate, Tel 02476 643466 :thumbsup:

    Got a 5 years warranty on my Panny S97EBS for £63.90 aswell :D
     
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    stanleyntl even if i factor in £300 for a lamp change ive still saved over two grand over the Pioneer 50inch Plasma I was considering.

    Good deal if you ask me. I can now invest that saved two grand in beer.
     
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    That's not true :eek: The sony guy obviously doesnt know what he's talking about!
    I own the Sony kf42sx300 lcd rear pro TV, and I know there's a simple knob you can turn to open the rear bit that houses the lamp for self service and the lamps retail between £210 and £360 depending on if you have the sx200 or sx300 model. But then again, if you choose to buy the lamp from sony....ouch!!;)
     
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    Just wanted to ask... What other problems, if any, have you experienced with your KF42?... As I am planning to buy the KF50 in the next few days
     
  13. stanleyntl

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    So there's only 1 lamp? Where do you get yours from?
    What is the lifespan of the lamp?

    How does this rptv compare with a plasma Sony set?
     
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    The only problem I've had was with the lamp; and the faulty TV was replaced as it was under warranty :D Otherwise, I've been very happy with the set.
     
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    1. Yes, there's only one lamp.
    2. You can get it from several dealers in the UK from £320 - £370, or from here for 211 Euros (use babel fish to translate from french to english) ;)
    3. If you have the money, plasma is the way to go really...
     
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    I have a Sony 41" 4:3 rear projection TV which is about 5 years old now and is used 4/5 hours per day and a Panasonic TX47" 16:9 rear projection set which is about 4 years old and gets the same use and I have never had to replace any lamps/filters etc???

    Am I just lucky or what??
     
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    Take them beers back!

    Thats £300 PER 12-18 months, assuming you keep your telly for 10 years (ave. lifespan of plasma) thats at least 2K in replacement bulb costs (plus you get an additional 4 inches of screen with the plasma.
     
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    No, it's just that the RP sets that you have don't have lamps in, they have CRT's.
     
  19. stanleyntl

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    Do you think any of the Sony plasmas better your Sony rpTV? :D
    And how often are you replacing lamps? :smoke:
     
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    Ahhhh, great, that explains a lot :thumbsup:
     
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    Come to think of it... not by a lot! :rotfl:

    Lamps should last between 18 -24 months; but then, how long is a human being meant to live? Some die just after birth, some live to be 100 years :clown: Just pray you've got the right draw of the straw :)
     
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    Hi

    Sorry to butt in on this thread, but I am considering purchasing the Sony KF605SX300 LCD rear projection tv which I understand to have just one lamp.

    How long could I expect this to last and how much would a lamp cost and is it DIY?

    The TV is used for about 4/5 hours per day.

    Thanks in advance

    PS What does DLP stand for?
     
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    Digital Light Processing
     
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    There are instructions in the manual for replacing the lamps yourself, it's quite easy.

    3000 hours sounds way to low. You know Sony Centres aren't actually Sony, they aren't even a franchise. They are independant companies that specialise in Sony products. I wouldn't take that as Sonys advice.
     
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    How long have you had your kf42sx300 and have you had to replace your bulb yet?

    PS thanks for the DLP explanation :)
     
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    The problem is that the lamps are high-pressure mercury discharge lamps, which do not have a filament. They can often "pop" without any warning at all, and often nowhere near their rated lifetime. In the DLP projector forum (where DLP technology has been used for a lot longer) many people have found lamps blowing at 400 hours or less, and not the 2000-3000 quoted. These lamps have only a limited warranty in many situations, so you need to find the running costs out before you buy the TV, and not after.
     
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    In the first time hello and sorry for my english i hope is not so bad.....

    well i am looking for the best price for a lamp for my kf42-sx200 the model is XL2000E in Europe but apparently the same lamp exist in US country but the model is XL2000U some one can said me if it is true ?

    http://www.ercservice.com/lamps/sonylamps/XL2000U.html
     
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    I think there are many DLP rearpro owners here who have had them for more than a year. Surely they havn't replaced their lamps yet?
     
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    Hi Panaman..

    I have a SONY KF-50SX200S 50" Rear Projection LCD TV which i bought in the Aug of 2003.
    So i guess its just over 2 years old ;) i use it on Avg 6-8 hours a day watching TV an mostly DVD`s.

    When i bought it i knew i`d have to change the lamp(s) an expected a price tag around £250-£300 a lamp but i haven`t crossed that bridge yet as the TV is still going strong so i think the 18-24 months is a bit on the lean side ;)

    Mav...
     
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    I'm going to guess that the suffix (E or U) indicates a difference, e.g. E for Europe, U for USA. Possibly because of differing mains voltages.

    The US part number is A1601753A
    The EU part number is A1484885A

    which also suggests a difference.

    For USD200, I wouldn't risk it. Try www.avlamps.co.uk .
     

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