Discussion in 'AV Receivers & Amplifiers' started by petrus, Nov 18, 2004.
anybody have experience with krell kav-400xi integrated amp?
No, but from all the reviews it is rated very highly and with the power rateing of 200w per channel i'm sure it drive almost any speakers out there.
My friend has it. Very nice, great sound, dynamics and huge fast bass, I should buy one of these
I have the previous model, the KAV300i, and have also auditioned the 400Xi you are referring to, as I am considering it.
Well, to put simply, it sounds quite awesome, able to control literally any speaker load without difficulty with very solid slam, very transparent, excellent soundstage focus and depth, and problably the best bass control you can buy. The only problem with Krells is that they are quite sensitive/fussy regarding partnering equipment such as cd source and interconnects as well as media quality i.e if a cd has the slightest recording drawback the Krell will definitely show it. Krells in general are considered by their critics as harsh and cold-sounding, however fine tuning can be achieved by using different interconnects and speaker cables.
In a nutshell an excellent choice.
thanks emilio, could somebody inform me what's the price range?
I don't have a firm price, but I would assume it's priced around £3.5-4k in the UK.
Correction: Just found out the price in Germany is 3500 Euros.
I too have been running a Krell 300i for a while.
When I first heard it in a demonstration it sounded quite harsh and bright. They were attached to the speakers which I also bought, some Sonus Faber Concertinos.
So the person let me borrow the Krell and try them out in my own lounge.
This made a huge difference. The Concertinos are not large speakers and do not produce much bass.
But when they were in my own lounge the difference was staggering. The detail of the sound was incredible and bass levels rose slightly.
I put this down to the room I demoed the Krell in. This was a long and narrow.
For once having a smaller room seems to pay off!
Not heard the 400xi. I am scared too as I am sure I would want one. The cost of these are out of my range at the moment though. Would recommend a 300i one. But get a demo first.
the Krell agent here actually has the 400Xi partnered with the Concertinos and with Transparent Audio cables - what cables are you using?
When I bought my Kef Model 4's, I had managed to bring in a number of high-end integrated amps to audition and honestly, nothing could control my speakers (especially bass) as well as the Krell. I have been truly addicted to Krell since then, and it is my intention (funds permitting of course) that as soon as my new house is built, I am going ahead with an all-Krell system.
I am using QED Silver Spiral Interconnects and Silver Anniversary speaker cable.
Although I am frighten to ask.
As it would probably make me want to upgrade straight away...
How did you think the Conertinos sounded with the 400xi?
Also. Good luck with the Krell system!
The 400Xi is £2700 in the UK, a £1000 reduction on the previous 300iL which is essentially similar (200w channel, same case etc) bar the absence of a volume knob. Coulple of 400Xi floating round ex demo/used around the £2k mark in Hifi news recently.
in one word - FANTASTIC - those speakers although small in size they do sound awesome. Excellent control, very clean, with just the right amount of bass. Clarity, focus, soundstage, depth, slam, punch - you name it - I was very impressed indeed. The agent has hooked the system up using Transparent Audio speaker cables and interconnects and although he is not the agent for these cables, he tells me that it's what Krell themselves use.
In a nutshell, a very very impressive and indeed addictive system!
At the risk of going slightly OT, I have a 300i to sell. Look in classified...
as a good friend of mine is really interested in buying my Krell KAV300i amp and KAV250CD player, it looks like I am taking the plunge and getting myself the current Krell KAV400xi amp as well as the Krell SACD Standard Cd player for christmas. Has anyone had any experience of this cd player?
Thanks and best regards
After a heck of a busy and hectic day at work, I decided to brighten up my day a bit and finally took the plunge and bought myself the Krell KAV400xi integrated amp and the Krell SACD Standard cd player, both of which I had been considering during the past few weeks to upgrade from my previous Krells.
As soon as I hooked and powered them up I was not very impressed - as expected - firstly because they must be allowed some time to warm up to their operating temp. and secondly they need to be run-in.
Well, as they have been playing unstoppably for the past 5-6 hours, the sound is definitely getting much much better - I actually think they already play much better than my well run-in previous Krell setup (they better be at those prices!)
Apart from sonic quality and performance I'm very impressed (as always with Krell) with the rock-solid build quality, the brushed aluminium looks, the quality of all controls and connections.
Well yes I am quite happy with my purchase and I'm really looking forward to a proper run-in and loads of enjoyable music listening.
Thats one of the things I find difficult to deal with in the hi-fi world.
Your intitial response was one of disappointment, but improved as you went along.
Most changes of hi-fi equipment might result in thinking "is this any better than before". Especially as it often costs alot of money
It is hard or near impossible to do an A/B comparison with your old equipment so you cannot simply flick a switch to compare.
I bought a DAC once and again like you initally was slightly disappointed with it.
It was only after listening to lots of music that you start to hear those small (sometime large) differences. You came from a system that was very capable anyway and laws of dimishing returns start to come in more aggressively?
Rest assure your system will sound better than probably 99% of the UK population's own music "systems" (damn I sound like a snob...)
I am sure as you run in the near gear it will sound alot better.
If you don't want the Krell 400xi let me know!
You gotta be joking - I'm absolutely loving it - it's been playing continuously all day today (since 7 am!) and it sounds absolutely fabulous. And although the diffeerence is definitely not tangible, indeed like you said, small (or large) differences in familiar cd's make all the difference.
Thats good to hear.
Like the 7am bit. Have been there, although maybe 7am is a bit early.
You must live in a detached house or have understanding neighbours!
Well understanding neighbours actually, although the volume level was fairly 'sociable'
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