Parawind
Standard Member
Hi everyone,
Background:
Long term lurker here in need of some advice/suggestions. So I finally decided to upgrade my existing 5.1 setup after 10 years. Current setup is Monitor Audio Vectors with a tiny VW8 sub. Its been a great system which was perfect while I was renting but now that I have a larger living room in my new home its time to build a proper system.
Usage:
I split pretty evenly between Music(Fast pace EDM and Heavy Metal with a lot of Double Bass) /Gaming (modern & retro)/Movies and while I have done plenty of research the one thing that i can't decide on is the Sub. I am planning to go dual sub but I'll be getting one sub to start.
Room Size: 8ft (H) x 18ft (W) x 13ft (L)
Planned Speakers:
Centre: Klipsch RP-600C
Left/Right: Klipsch RP-8000F
Surrounds & Rears: Klipsch RP-500M
Current Options:
Klipsch SPL-150 - €700
BK Electronics Monolith Plus - €800
XTZ 12.17 Edge - €630
SVS SB2000 Pro - €1200
These prices might look strange but what complicates things is that i am based in Ireland which means I have pretty limited options available to begin with and this isn't helped by a terrible sterling exchange rate and high shipping costs (assuming they will even ship, most places won't)
Ruled out
XXLS400 - seemed like it might be the way to go but I see BK have supply chain issues for this at the moment.
The Details/Questions?
Any of these will be a huge upgrade on what I currently have but I am struggling with the seemingly age old problem of wanting tight base response for music and good low bass LFE extension for movies.
Given the 8000f floor standers will already be able to deliver good bass down to 32hz for music would pairing it with the Monolith plus for the better low bass extension be the right choice (depending on crossover) or would it potentially cause me issues with music in the 20hz-32hz range?
The Klipsch seems like the best option as it seems to be well regarded for its price point, fixes the problems with r-115sw, gives me enough low base extension and seems to be musically responsive for a ported sub and given its also the cheapest of the options it makes economical sense.
The Monolith Plus seems to be the best for movies, but everything i read in terms of music just says get the xxls400 without much detail. Is the music performance something that I would even notice with this sub? (I am by no means an audiophile)
The XTZ 12.17 Edge is a curious one, the price point is great but how does it compare with the regular XTZ 12.17? I can't find many review of the Edge version and I also have seen reports of issues with this particular sub. I am also slight suspicious of the discounted price. Does it compare with the Monolith?
I know the SVS are really well regarded but in Europe their price point seems to put them out of consideration, where i could have Dual of the other 3 subs for a similar price. Are they really that much better?
So you can see why i am driving myself mad.
Background:
Long term lurker here in need of some advice/suggestions. So I finally decided to upgrade my existing 5.1 setup after 10 years. Current setup is Monitor Audio Vectors with a tiny VW8 sub. Its been a great system which was perfect while I was renting but now that I have a larger living room in my new home its time to build a proper system.
Usage:
I split pretty evenly between Music(Fast pace EDM and Heavy Metal with a lot of Double Bass) /Gaming (modern & retro)/Movies and while I have done plenty of research the one thing that i can't decide on is the Sub. I am planning to go dual sub but I'll be getting one sub to start.
Room Size: 8ft (H) x 18ft (W) x 13ft (L)
Planned Speakers:
Centre: Klipsch RP-600C
Left/Right: Klipsch RP-8000F
Surrounds & Rears: Klipsch RP-500M
Current Options:
Klipsch SPL-150 - €700
BK Electronics Monolith Plus - €800
XTZ 12.17 Edge - €630
SVS SB2000 Pro - €1200
These prices might look strange but what complicates things is that i am based in Ireland which means I have pretty limited options available to begin with and this isn't helped by a terrible sterling exchange rate and high shipping costs (assuming they will even ship, most places won't)
Ruled out
XXLS400 - seemed like it might be the way to go but I see BK have supply chain issues for this at the moment.
The Details/Questions?
Any of these will be a huge upgrade on what I currently have but I am struggling with the seemingly age old problem of wanting tight base response for music and good low bass LFE extension for movies.
Given the 8000f floor standers will already be able to deliver good bass down to 32hz for music would pairing it with the Monolith plus for the better low bass extension be the right choice (depending on crossover) or would it potentially cause me issues with music in the 20hz-32hz range?
The Klipsch seems like the best option as it seems to be well regarded for its price point, fixes the problems with r-115sw, gives me enough low base extension and seems to be musically responsive for a ported sub and given its also the cheapest of the options it makes economical sense.
The Monolith Plus seems to be the best for movies, but everything i read in terms of music just says get the xxls400 without much detail. Is the music performance something that I would even notice with this sub? (I am by no means an audiophile)
The XTZ 12.17 Edge is a curious one, the price point is great but how does it compare with the regular XTZ 12.17? I can't find many review of the Edge version and I also have seen reports of issues with this particular sub. I am also slight suspicious of the discounted price. Does it compare with the Monolith?
I know the SVS are really well regarded but in Europe their price point seems to put them out of consideration, where i could have Dual of the other 3 subs for a similar price. Are they really that much better?
So you can see why i am driving myself mad.