Nice detailed review Steve. It will be interesting to see how the 800 and the 1200 perform also. What's great about the Klipsch Cinema series soundbars is they give you the option to add a seperate wired sub of your choice also. Once they get the EQ feature sorted on the app then you can maybe potentially adjust the sound a bit more to your liking? The use of dots on the soundbar itself is rather bizarre and makes sense you can switch them off completely, don't think the 800 and 1200 use the dots but have the normal info etc displayed on these soundbars, so i take it if you use HDMI CEC then you'll have the menu information etc showing on the tv display screen anyway?