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Kindle : Is it worth £41 for 3G?

DPinBucks

Distinguished Member
Kinda specialised question, but has anyone any experience of this? I'm getting a Kindle, but can't see why the extra £41 for 3G is worthwhile.

As far as I cen tell, all it offers is the ability to download stuff from Amazon in those places where you can get a cell signal but no wifi. There's no app or anything on the device to allow more generalised web browsing, is there?

I can't see me ever using either feature, actually, just to buy books. I'd plan to download them to my PC first, and then onto the device.
 

GasDad

Remembered (1964-2012)
Kinda specialised question, but has anyone any experience of this? I'm getting a Kindle, but can't see why the extra £41 for 3G is worthwhile.

As far as I cen tell, all it offers is the ability to download stuff from Amazon in those places where you can get a cell signal but no wifi. There's no app or anything on the device to allow more generalised web browsing, is there?

I can't see me ever using either feature, actually, just to buy books. I'd plan to download them to my PC first, and then onto the device.




I've had the non 3G one for several months - you will end up downloading from the device - why say get out of bed, and go to the PC, just to buy/download the book you'd downloaded the trial version of (ie the first few chapters).?

And why would you want to download them to the PC anyway?

Buy the book on the PC, and it will appear (assuming a wifi connection) on the kindle a few minutes later.
 

Ian J

Banned
I didn't think it worthwhile as the only place where I would be out of wifi range for significant periods would be on holiday and I tend to buy sufficient books before hand to see through the holiday. If not, there are plenty of wifi cafes and hotels that i could use.

You can browse the internet with it but it's very rudimentary
 

Aaron D84

Active Member
I was going to get one but just the wifi one but i don't read enough books these day so at the moment it's easier just buying the physical book. Not sure why you'd need 3g though. Yes it has the internet but so does my phone and im sure it's a much better experience viewing the internet on my phone over the kindle. Unless you read a full book away from a wifi signal then i can't see the point and anyone with common sense would ensure they have enough content on there to last them until they next are near a wifi connection.
 

nheather

Distinguished Member
I didn't bother when I bought mine - I was tempted.

But at the end of the day, I decided that

The browser isn't that good. It is classed as 'experimental' so no official support. I don't think it can handle much (or any) active content. The screen is monochrome with limited depth (4bit, 16 shades).

I've tried the browser on mine at home on the wifi and I soon lost interest. I guess the real value comes when you are out and about and desperately need to find that address or telephone number etc. but I wouldn't use it for general browsing.

And if I was really desperate, I could always find a wifi hotspot.

If it were me, and I was prepared to spend that money I might be looking at the Sony eReader PRS 600 instead - as it is said to have a better screen, is backlit (so no faffing with add-on LED lights), is smaller (but with same size screen) and has a touch screen.

Or I would spend the £41 on the genuine Amazon cases which are extremely nice but a bit pricey.

Cheers,

Nigel
 
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GasDad

Remembered (1964-2012)
If it were me, and I was prepared to spend that money I might be looking at the Sony eReader PRS 600 instead - as it is said to have a better screen, is backlit (so no faffing with add-on LED lights), is smaller (but with same size screen) and has a touch screen.

It doesn't have a back light.

What use is a touch screen on an eReader ? - just makes the display harder to read and more reflective.
 

kav

Distinguished Member
I use the 3G on my Kindle quite a lot to browse the web while on my commute. However as said it is quite basic - no flash or anything like that, and the requirement to zoom pages etc makes it less than ideal for browsing. It does a reasonable job with forums and news pages though, which is all I really use it for.

If you have a smartphone I'd say it becomes pointless, but it is nice that they included it.
 

nheather

Distinguished Member
It doesn't have a back light.

OK, I was told it did.

What use is a touch screen on an eReader ? - just makes the display harder to read and more reflective.

Can't comment on the 'harder to read' other than the comparative reviews I have read say the Sony screen is sharper and easier to read.

As for function. The absence of the keyboard makes the Sony smaller. And I have a Kindle and I am happy with it but I still find myself instinctively touch the screen to try and turn a page etc. As I said I'm happy with the Knidle and the keyboard does have some use I just think a touch screen is more intuitive.

Cheers,

Nigel
 

Solomon Grundy

Distinguished Member
It depends. if you only intend to read books on it then I would say no.
 

GasDad

Remembered (1964-2012)
OK, I was told it did.
Can't comment on the 'harder to read' other than the comparative reviews I have read say the Sony screen is sharper and easier to read.

I've read loads of reviews that say the opposite - hey ho.

As for function. The absence of the keyboard makes the Sony smaller. And I have a Kindle and I am happy with it but I still find myself instinctively touch the screen to try and turn a page etc. As I said I'm happy with the Knidle and the keyboard does have some use I just think a touch screen is more intuitive.

I love the fact that with a kindle, I can read one handed (cup of tea on the other in case you were wondering :p) - that just isn't possible with the Sony - given the position of the buttons.
 

mitchec1

Distinguished Member
We've got both in the household and tbh I'd buy the wifi one.

The only time the wife has required a 3g signal was when she was in hospital and then we used her smartphone as a wifi hotspot and downloaded through that.

There's enough hotspots around the UK & Europe that make it easy enough to download on the move.
 

DPinBucks

Distinguished Member
Thanks, guys. :thumbsup:

Despite your comment, mitchec1, I'm now inclined to spent the extra for 3G. I didn't realise it had any kind of browser, and tbh I don't see me using it much. However, I only have a cheapo 2G PaYG mobile, no iPad or anything, so for the price of a couple of months' smartphone rental I'll have some capability to get addresses, phone numbers, etc.

There's also the element of rudimentray future-proofing. It's possible I guess that a market of web-enabled apps will appear. On the other hand, if it becomes too popular Amazon will pull the plug on unlimited 3G access.

I've not bought it yet, so further comment will still be appreciated. :)
 

IronGiant

Moderator
My wife won one in a competition (lucky so and so) so didn't get the choice. Not too surprisingly it was the non 3G version and she hasn't missed the fact it doesn't have it. Then again she hasn't been anywhere without wifi, and if she did she has a smartphone. I think all the arguments for and against the 3G are very valid and if I was still buying one for her as I planned I would still be dithering.
 

nheather

Distinguished Member
On observation I would make about the WiFi is that the receiver is quite weak. It is on mine so I'm guessing they are all like that.

In our house where we can get strong connections with our laptops, PSPs etc. the Kindle gets a weak connection and fails to connect in lesser areas.

Cheers,

Nigel
 

mitchec1

Distinguished Member
Thanks, guys. :thumbsup:

Despite your comment, mitchec1, I'm now inclined to spent the extra for 3G. I didn't realise it had any kind of browser, and tbh I don't see me using it much. However, I only have a cheapo 2G PaYG mobile, no iPad or anything, so for the price of a couple of months' smartphone rental I'll have some capability to get addresses, phone numbers, etc.

There's also the element of rudimentray future-proofing. It's possible I guess that a market of web-enabled apps will appear. On the other hand, if it becomes too popular Amazon will pull the plug on unlimited 3G access.

I've not bought it yet, so further comment will still be appreciated. :)

If you look on youtube for Kindle browser there are enough video's on there to show it working. It's not fancy but it works.
 

richard plumb

Distinguished Member
I think people are over complicating it. I don't think they put 3G in there for future proofing or anything complicated. They just put it in there so you can browse the store and download things wherever you are. Perhaps you don't have wifi in your house? You just want to use it as a self-contained thing. Perfect.
 

Goooner

Distinguished Member
On the subject of Kindle, what exactly is the point of letting you download a sample of a book, when all the sample consists of is the title and copyright pages? I'm not expecting a dozen chapters or anything but enough pages to get a flavour of it would be nice :)

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GasDad

Remembered (1964-2012)
On the subject of Kindle, what exactly is the point of letting you download a sample of a book, when all the sample consists of is the title and copyright pages? I'm not expecting a dozen chapters or anything but enough pages to get a flavour of it would be nice :)

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Of the 3 books I've downloaded samples for, all have been at least 3 chapters.
 

Goooner

Distinguished Member
Maybe I've just been unlucky :)

I've recently started learning to play the guitar, so I've been trying to find some decent books and also something suitable for a beginner at music theory but the ones I've looked at haven't had any of the actual book in the sample. I just want to check they're at the sort of level I'm at rather than buying something to easy or hard for me.

To be fair, when I've sampled novels they've had quite a few pages, so maybe it's just non-fiction type stuff.

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Reepicheep

Active Member
I've had no problem with just having the WIFI version. I only really connect to the WIFI when I'm at home after I have purchased some books and I have at least 10 books on my Kindle waiting for me to read (non costing more than £4, most less than a £1 and some free).

Never surfed the net on it - I have a smart phone that does a much better job!

When buying ebooks I prefer to browse the Amazon site on my laptop, read reviews etc. then buy a few at a time. Then I connect my Kindle to my home WIFI when its convenient and the purchased books just download automatically :thumbsup:

People seem to expect too much from the Kindle - its an ebook reader, not a netbook or ipad. It's designed to display ebooks and does that extremely well!
 

LV426

Administrator
Staff member
It seems to me that the big benefit of the 3g version is the fact that - notwithstanding the nature of the screen itself and the rudimenatry nature of the inbuilt web browser - you can use 3g to browse the web, worldwide, without paying £8 per mb* to your mobile phone supplier. Of course, I'd have to guess there is no guarantee that the browser itself will remain, nor that the ability to use the 3g ability other than for downloading books, will remain. But until it does, if you are a traveller, then within the limitations of its web experience, you can recover the additional cost in a few minutes.

* Orange - outside the EU. Yes, that's per mb
 

officerdibble11

Active Member
It seems to me that the big benefit of the 3g version is the fact that - notwithstanding the nature of the screen itself and the rudimenatry nature of the inbuilt web browser - you can use 3g to browse the web, worldwide, without paying £8 per mb* to your mobile phone supplier. Of course, I'd have to guess there is no guarantee that the browser itself will remain, nor that the ability to use the 3g ability other than for downloading books, will remain. But until it does, if you are a traveller, then within the limitations of its web experience, you can recover the additional cost in a few minutes.

* Orange - outside the EU. Yes, that's per mb

i thought that and almost pulled the trigger but some further digging and it seems the 3g only fully works in the UK, if you go abroad then it gets limited to just connecting to the kindle store and downloading books, no web browsing at all.
 

nheather

Distinguished Member
i thought that and almost pulled the trigger but some further digging and it seems the 3g only fully works in the UK, if you go abroad then it gets limited to just connecting to the kindle store and downloading books, no web browsing at all.

I didn't get that impression when I was researching. So worth double checking.

Cheers,

Nigel
 

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