Question KEF THX to MK THX....worth it?

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    Hello all,

    With a new apartment on the horizon, it's given me pause for thought as to whether my TDM KEFs are going to fit into the living room setup and of course meet the important Fiance approval factor as well. Judging by initial reactions, I don't think it's going to work. They are just too big and bulky to try and conceal, so a time may come soon where I must find them a new home and be on the look out for something more compact but just as dynamic.

    But what to choose?? I thought the logical replacement would be the MK S150 which would be easier to integrate into an AV unit. Would this be a suitable switch? Not sure if I can stretch to the Mk2's though, are they a must over the Mk1's? Any other suggestions?

    At the moment, the thought is to start with a 3.2 system and add rear speakers later. I'm very interested to hear everyone's thoughts
     
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    For better value and dare I say it performance look at the XTZ cinema series.
     
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    I'll give them a look! Thanks for the tip!
     
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    I went from the Kef THX to M&K S150THX and initially found the M&K's to have a leaner sound. The Kefs were very punchy in comparison but the imaging was pinpoint razor sharp on the M&K's. I would say the M&K's rely a bit more on having a subwoofer with decent upper bass punch/kick whereas the Kefs (due to their twin racetrack drivers) could get away with one that hasn't (to some degree).

    Having said that, they both have excellent dynamics with the M&K's edging out the Kefs in that respect. I'm on my second set of S150's (third if I count an extra pair I bought and kept briefly) and various other M&K's so I think they're great speakers. I did like the Kefs a great deal though.

    Other brands like the XTZ Cinemas are worth checking out or newer stuff from M&K Sound.
     
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    Thanks for the handy information! Do you own the mk1s or the mk2s? I must admit the XTZ M6 look quite appealing. I've got 2 BK Monoliths to back them up so shouldn't have to worry too much about the speaker's lows.
     
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    Mine are the original mk1's. The Monoliths should do the job nicely.

    The XTZ's are still on my potential upgrade hitlist (along with Arendal Monitors). XTZ's are smaller so would be easier to accommodate so that appeals to me.
     
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    We have the M&K's on demo here if youre close enough for a listen, so youre more than welcome to book a day thats suitable for you. The M&K's are designed a specific way and as a whole package with their own subwoofers. A complete system gives a very punchy well balanced sound thats incredibly accurate and dynamic, but also a little unforgiving with poor quality source material. In terms of the mkII's, and Ive said this before, I dont think any of the legacy products are as good as the new revisions, which all have improved drivers and cabinets leading to a cleaner overall sound.
     
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    Thanks for the information. Very helpful! If that's the case regarding the Mk2, I don't think I could stretch to £1300 a piece so currently the XTZs are looking the more likely candidates. Wish i lived closer to demo that system though...
     
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    Downsizing was my reason.

    I moved my lovely Kef’s TDM's into the loft & went with some SVS ultras (bookshelf 5.1) for a while they were very nice but lacked a little of what I like in my sound or what i was used to with the Kefs so I swapped them for some MP-150 & SS-150's mk1 & to be honest the MP's were fine but I thought they lacked a little weight on the stand & really needed to be wall mounted.

    So I recently got a set of the S-150 MK1 & the SS-150 mK2 (yes that’s 4 now) & I love them they are perfect for my little front room, I also run 2 of the MP-150 as rears sometimes (I swap with the SS-150's) which & as it happens its worked out a lovely retro set & great value for the price second-hand.

    I would also like to say I think the MK1 are beauty’s & I have no idea where this ugly speakers rubbish came from as on the right stands they look fabulous mine are the Atacama HMS 2.1.

    As for whether there better than the Kef’s is rather subjective I like both but I just fancied downsizing myself & the M&K’s fit the bill including the SS-150.

    So basically I have to play with

    3 x MP 150 2x SS-150mk1 2x SS-150 mk2 & 3 x S-150 one is an AC (angled centre cabinet) & 3 x MX-150 MKII Subs, I enjoy swapping & changing when in the mood.

    Am sure the M&K Mk2 are “better” but I myself am very happy with the old Mk1's.

    Which everway you go i dont think you can go far wrong with the MK's should you go that direction.

    So to answer you question yes worth it especially sizewise as the old kefs are big old speakers but excellent ;)

    If your ever passing by Harrow/London come & have a retro listern.
     
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    Another person with TDMS and dual Monos. That makes three on here now. Getting to be a bit of a club. :rotfl:
     
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    Thanks for your story, very informative! Yes those Kefs are big brutes and best suited to a dedicated room. I think step one will be to offload the Kefs before I go further with this, but you've all given me some great advice to ponder on in the mean time. Any other suggestions are welcomed!
     
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    Tired to sell mine here but nobody was intrested in the Kefs with the 45B & an extra 34DS for £800 so am keeping mine & they will soon be going to a friends front room with my old yamaha A2 (lucky bugger).
     
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    An i idea of how they look in situ (forgive the mess).

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    If you can accommodate them, these would take some beating.

    1723 Monitor
     
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    Impressive! Certainly worthy of the shortlist. I guess there's no current UK seller?
     
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    They certainly are impressive and worthy of any shortlist.

    Demo's are available and not a problem in the U.K.

    Ordering is done via the Arendal website who offer a 60 day buy and try period. Check it out here:

    arendalsound.eu
     
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    Make that four still using TDMS 5.1 setup.
     
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    But are you using dual Monoliths. If not then you are only an honorary member. :D
     
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    TDM 23F X 2, TDM 23C X1, TDN 34DS X2, TDM 45B X1.
     
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    I'm using kef tdm also, in my dedicated room. But have always wanted to listen to a good set of MK and see if there is much of a difference to me..
     
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    I also had new tweeters put in the front three, I was told by a kef representative that the tweeters from the ci160 series speakers are close enough in parameters that they would work good, and so far there excellent.
     
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    C0716639-218F-4FDC-8EAB-353D52408E96.jpeg You could also look at the daddy of the monitor speakers imo. KK Quattro range. Better looking than anything above imo again and the sound is amazing. :)

    Would have to source used as they don’t make them now but read up on them and you could have a bargain on your hands
     
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    What about the difference between the KEF CI5160 and the new MK 150 series?
    Wich one would have the edge?
     
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    I've had Kef Reference 4 to MK300 - yes would be the answer, but nothing wrong with KEF as a brand imo.
     
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    I'll look them up and see if I can find them at a reasonable price, worthy of paying just for a demo just in case I don't like them as much as the kef.
     
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    You think tha the MK would definitely be an upgrade over the Kef TDM in your opinion,?
     
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    Sure, as long as you have some decent subs, yo'd be hard pushed to get a more accurate HT speaker than MK.
     

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