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Discussion in 'Home Cinema Speakers' started by danny daniell, Sep 17, 2004.

  1. danny daniell

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    Heres your chance to tell us what you have got,what partnering equipment you are using & your general experiences/recommendations for past & present Kef reference speakers.
    Personally i have 203 fronts & 202 centre

    Regards Dan :)
     
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    Hi to all Kef ref lovers. Powered by my Yamaha DSP-A2, I have Reference 104/2 Raymond Cooke Ltd Edn as my fronts and Reference Ones as my rears. These produce a very powerful cinema experience and squeeze every detail out of a CD driven from my DVD player and thru the amp.

    I still only have a Q95C as the centre, I don't see the point on going to the Ref. 100 so I'm looking for anyone selling a 200c (or better !!).

    I back up the power of the fronts with a REL Q201E sub. I think this gives a pretty thunderous by very precise system for both music and movies.
     
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    Hi Kingcobbler,

    I used to own the venerable 200c & what a fantastic centre channel speaker it is.(my dad still uses one with his model 4s) but if your budget can stretch to the 202c,its in a class of its own (especially with vocals) however it may not be such a great timbre match with the 104s that you already have (i think the 200c would be closer IMHO) :smashin:

    Regards Dan
     
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    Yeah, I think you are right about the 200c, I just need to find one (at the right price !!) Also the 202 ansd 204 are too tall to fit on my Alphason A/V rack, whereas a 200c is the same height as my Q95c.
     
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    I used to have the Reference model 1's.
    Excellent treble, but bass was indistinct, muddy and didn't seem to integrate with mid/treble very well. So I gave 'em to a buddy of mine.

    I now have the reference THX TDM23F's (the full THX package actually), and whilst you'd think they'd not be as good with music, I think they're better!
    The mid range and vocal sounds have much more presence, although the dispersion pattern is narrower.

    I'm using them with a Denon (K)AVC-A1SE, and an SVS PCUltra subwoofer.
     
  6. danny daniell

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    Jules,

    i also used to own the TDMs but went down with a serious case of upgraditis :D .I saw the 203s/202c at the London hi-fi show about three years ago & was totally smitten :rolleyes: .I also wanted to move into SACD & DVDA so the hypertweeters apealed to me although with the relative paucity of good software,i havent really used it

    Regards Dan :)
     
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    A pair of 104/2's in rosewood finish, 100 centre, TDM 34ds's for side surround and 70s's for centre rear. The sub is a rel Storm 3 in rosenut, it was the nearest finish to complement the 104's. Waiting to replace ageing amp and processor for AV amp. I thankyou. :D
     
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    If i remember correctly,it was a pair of 105s/100 centre that got me hooked on the Kef sound.It was a demonstration of T2 via a Yamaha Dsp A1000 (the first real Hi-end home cinema integrated,a real trail blazer for the time)I was completely blown away by the massive rich fathomless sound.I brought the amp & went for the model 90c but couldnt afford the 105s.I was gutted :zonked: when my dad went on to buy the model 4s/200c,they sounded awesome :eek: but now i am older & earning a bit more cash,i can afford to keep up with him :D

    Regards Dan :)
     
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    Hello everyone,

    I am brand new to the forum, and this is my very first post. I have Reference Model 4's fronts hooked to a Yamaha AX1 (via the theatre throughput of my Krell KAV300i stereo amp), RDM Two monitors as rear/surround speakers, 200C centre and a 40B subwoofer. The reason the Model 4's are hooked to the Krell was due to the power they demanded and which the AX1 simply could not provide/satisfy especially for low(er) frequencies.

    Not a bad setup, considering I bought most of my equipment quite a few years ago, but with certain upgrades over the years.

    Best regards

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    Hello all.

    As with you Daniel i use a pair of 203's on the front, with a 202c center (which IMHO is magnificent), with a pair of 201's on the sides and Q1's as center backs. I use a Tag 32r DP alongside 3 Tag 250 mono-blocks for the front 3, and 4 Tag 125 mono-blocks for the surround 4. I have nothing but love for it all.

    Regards

    Steven
     
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    hi steven

    i have the exact same setup as you do with the small difference of another poweramp...

    i use a macintosh mc7205 for all the channels exept the surround backs, which are driven by a pair of avm monoblocks.

    maybe some time when i have some money left, i could invest in a nice mcintosh 2 channel amp like the mc242 or mc402 or maybe even the ultrasharp looking "small" monoblocks mc501 to drive the fronts...

    the tag poweramps sounded in this combination a little too bright and harsh for my taste, thats the reason why i paired this combination with the mcintoshs to take away the harshness and bring a little more smoothness

    ps: which subwoofer do you use? in my case its a revel performa b15

    regards
    christoph
     
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    I have spoken to several forum members who swear by Tag with the new reference series.Polecat Pete uses(stereo) DPA 32/3 times 100p tri-amping a pair of 201s & says he gets awesome results.I must admit that the one time i heard Tag (running thru some hi-end B&Ws) they sounded a little too fierce for my taste.I shall reserve final judgement until i have heard them running thru the Kefs.

    Regards Dan :)

    Steve , do you use room correction?
     
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    Indeed i do.
    I find it too be an invaluable tool.

    Steven.
     
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    Christoph.

    Sorry, i missed your question earlier. I use 4 Servo 15's.

    Steven
     
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    hi steven

    no problem ;)

    never heard about servo subs...

    have you also testet other brands and types of poweramps? how do you comment my opinion concerning the tag amps being a little harsh (in combination with the tag dualsharc and the kef refs of course)?
     
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    I am certainly aware that it does not sound warm compared to other set-ups.
    I am quite taken with detail however, which i feel my set up gives by the spade full as it were. The 4 subs nicely eq'ed give a luxurious feel the those <20hz moments.

    Regards

    Steven
     
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    I have the 207s front with the 202c centre (unfortunately not enough room for the 204c) and 201s rear. My processor and amps are all TAG. I am very happy with the sound, detail etc. Would be intrested if anyone has experience with the PS4000 or PS5000 as this maybe one of my next upgrades.
     
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    hi andrew

    wow, the 207 is definitely a different league...

    is there a special reason, why you are heading towards the big kef subs?

    i think you should also consider the new DD-series (esp. 12" and 15") from velodyne and my beloved revel performa b15 of course ;)
     
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    Servus Christoph,
    207s are sort of Bass Limited, subs go much deeper, at least that's what paper says.
    I heard 207s many times and I really hate the fact I have no space for them. I even got an offer for a cherry pair for only 6,6k last July, but managed to resist.

    About space, those "small" Mac monoblocks are huge, I could not believe how big they are when I saw them live. Each one is bigger than your 7205. . .
     
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    hallo miron

    you misunderstood me a little... i wanted to know why andrew wants only and exactly information about the kef subs and not also about the the revel perforna b15 and the velodyne DD series.

    i know that the "small" mac monos "quite" huge are, but compared to the big monos they are almost tiny ;)

    wow, 6.6k is an excellent price for the 207 (aka schneeman or gummibärchen).

    what is your setup as you didn't buy the schneemann?
     
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    hi,
    no problemo.

    I am running Ref Two + 200c + 34DS in a TAG setup.
    All fine but upgrade bug bites....

    Only two reasons for not buying 207s were space and being reasonable those days :)
     
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    hi miron

    has the bug something certain in mind?
     
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    Hi Christoph,

    I guess the main reasons for looking at the Kefs first is the review in Hifi+, my satisfaction with the Kef speakers I have purchased and the assumption that they would work well together - especially for music. I will certainly consider others particularly as the Kefs are probably not the best value!!
     
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    on second thought ... no!
     
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    Hi Andrew,
    i recently purchased a B&W 850 sub to partner my 203s/202c.I have been running it in for the last couple of days & the cone is breaking in just nicely.It is £500 cheaper than the PSW 5000 & has about the same footprint as the PSW 4000.Possibly one for your shortlist? ;)

    P,S does the 202c manage to keep up with the 207s o.k?

    Regards Dan :)
     
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    I have 203's for fronts, 202c for centre, 201's for the rears and TDM34DS for the side. Apart from the sides the others are powered by 2 Arcam P7's tri-amped at the front and bi amped at the rear. The TDM34DS are powered by an Arcam P35.
    I found that the Kefs benefitted from bi-amping to a degree where it was really noticable.

    Regards
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    Hi John,

    hope you have settled in o.k :smashin: .Have you got your kit installed in your new house yet? Dont be tempted to trade it in for a surfboard :nono: ;)

    Regards Dan
     
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    I use a pair of 203's with a 204c center. My side and rear surrounds are old Q70. I use a Meridian processor and Meridian 5 channel end amps.

    I sort of plan to go with 205's at the front and move the 203's to side and rear. Need to find good prices for that move.. that 6.6K for a pair of 207 was very good (Euro's or UK pounds ?)

    Jaco
     
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    Euros Jaco
     
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