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kef eggs with naim amp

Discussion in 'Home Cinema Speakers' started by phil5743, Apr 13, 2003.

  1. phil5743

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    I had a demo today of the Kef "egg" system and am intending to buy it to free up space in the living room. However my system consists of a Naim pre-power combo and a Yamaha E800 processor, so I am not sure about how best to connect the subwoofer. I understand that if I connect it to the low level sub out on the processor I will not benefit from it when playing audio only through the Naim. If I connect it between the the left/right speakers and the Naim using high level, how will movies sound compared with using low level? Will it suffer and if so could I easily have both connections set up and switch between the two? Thanks for any help.
     
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    Far be it from me to critise ... but if you're planning to use KEF eggs for stereo with your Naim kit ... you're either a troll or a fool.

    The Eggs were designed as a sub/sat system with pure home cinema in mind, I don't know what speakers you have at the meoment ... but assuming they are of a quality matching the Naim ... then you're going to be seriously disappointed with the sound from the Eggs ...

    If you're sure you want the eggs ... you may as well sell the Naim and the E800 and buy a SR5300 or similar so you're unlikely to notice much difference in music quality between the two setups with Eggs.

    Just my change from £9.98 ...

    Vikki
     
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    phil5743

    I have the Kef Eggs & Sub system and use them
    for both home cinema & Music.

    The system is fantastic , impresses EVERYONE that i demo
    the kit too.

    When you browse through specialist forums such as these
    be very careful, you can learn a lot from the members but
    there it seems some people that are never happy.
    You could spend £10k on a system and theyd still say
    youve got rubbish kit.

    Unless your a sound producer working for sony music
    im sure your ears will be impressed with the kef's.

    The majority of this country would think your crazy
    considering spending close to £800 on a speaker kit.
    There living rooms are filled with £150 all in systems.

    If your aware of manufactures such as KEF then your do no wrong
    along with countless others.

    I listen to music such as pink floyd , roger waters etc.
    and i can tell you dark side of the moon as never sounded better.
    and i enable all the speakers in 5ch/7ch stereo mode.
    purists would die hearing such a thing.

    Enjoy............gather your info very carefully and search
    these forums. theres a wealth of good data in ther.
     
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    I'm well aware of the limitations of the Eggs, but after hearing them am prepared to live with them for the sake of increased space and looks. My Monitor Audio floorstanders seem to dominate our front room and have never been a true match for my centre and rears (came out long before home cinema). My audio listening has decreased over the years and I mostly listen to the home cinema anyhow. I think I would be foolish to ever get rid of the Naims though (hence getting the processor) and they seem to produce a more than acceptable sound out of the KEFs for the occasions that I do listen to Vinyl/CD's in stereo. The old rule of the source being more important than the speakers sill holds true! Thanks for your reply, Phil.
     
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    If you like DSotM ... the SACD version is a great multi-channel mix ... now that's good.

    Anyway ... reguarding the KEF Eggs ... yes they'll sound good ... and the Naim kit will get the best out of them ... but they will never sound as good as your floorstanders will.

    As for connecting the sub ... its going to be really difficult to get both connections working at one ... yes you can unplug and plug the required connection, but that will be very tedious and you run the risk of shorting your amp if you unplug the high level connection at the sub end.

    The alternative is to tell your E800 that you have large fronts, small everything else and no sub ... that way the LFE channel and the bass from the centre and rears will be redirected to the fronts, which can then be got via high level connection.

    The third option I can think of is tracking down a "bass management" unit such as the Outlaw ICBM ... this is basically a crossover that fits between the pre and power amps for all 6.1 channels and redirects bass to the sub. Unfortunately I've realised as I type this your E800 has the amps for the centre and rears built in so you can't connect the ICBM easily, and also the Outlaw ICBM is only (as far as I'm aware) avaliable in the USA.

    The fourth option is to get an alternative sub to the standard KEF one which can be connected at line and high level at once. The only subs I know of with this facility are the REL ones ... starting with the baby Quake and working upwards. I know the Quake isn't highly rated here, but I would have thought it would outperform the Eggs normal sub and can be connected to both inputs at one.

    As you see ... I think it's going to be difficult to integrate your system with the Eggs ... another reason you may want to considers replacing the Naim Kit with a replacement AV amp which will have full bass management functionality.

    Hope this has helped you a bit

    Vikki

    P.S. you may want to wait for the release of the "new" Eggs due out in a month or two which are reported to be more musical all round.
     
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    Thanks for your help, Vikki. I think that I will use the high level connection between the Naim and the sub. This will ensure I can use it for stereo as well as home cinema. How the bass will sound with movies using this connection is what I'm not sure about. In some ways is it not better to use the Naim to control as much as possible, or will the dedicated sub out on the E800 still be best for movies? I'll have to try both and see. I will only ever get a dedicated surround amp when I can afford to do it AND keep the Naims. I'm sure that whatever speakers I'm using, I would be more disappointed with stereo listening without the Naims. I am attempting to end up with the best of both worlds as well as keeping my room less cluttered (hence the eggs) and there is always going to be some compromise I suppose. Also it was the new eggs I was going to get. Regards Phil.
     

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