Hi Does anybody own or heard the little Pioneer S V50K sub sat package? (I think thats the correct model number)! Their very small black sat speakers with a silver band across the middle. I recently heard the B&W VM1's and was very impressed. Very very impressed. I had the good fortune to make a direct comparison against the old Kef eggs and the difference was BIG! The VM1's had a much bigger sound and made the old eggs sound small and tinny. The vm's have a larger cabinet volume which clearly helps with the bass. The assistant there however told me he installed the new mk2 eggs that morning at a private address and said that they bettered the VM1's!?! I will when I have time (and soon I hope) try the new kef mk2 speakers, as im sure they have improved the sub no end, but to stake they "blow the VM1's away" is bold indeed. This shop i called into to demo the speakers (and it is a big independant retail chain) said they would also price match Creative-Audio on the eggs mk2 as well. Just as well as Im 300 miles plus from their store and Kef will not allow their dealers to mail order products. PM me if you want to know the store im talking about, They have a store in most large towns. Comments on the little Pioneer and others mentioned here would be most welcome. Thanks Snowman.