JVC X3/X7/X9 Owners Thread - Part 2

Gadjet

Novice Member
(MOD EDIT: Part 1 can be found here)

Having just watched Tron in 3D with the Panasonic 310 I had the 3d set to full hd 3d from the player, but full hd isn't on the X3. The only one that matches is side by side. But when set to that the picture quality was not as good. In detail and 3d. Found it again hard to see stand out 3d, but good 3d on pirates trailer at start.
Lost at moment with set up and 3d, resident evil 5 should come tomorrow which from reviews best 3d?
Biggest question from all my ramblings is can x3 do full hd 3d or does it have to be side by side. I put x3 to auto in 3d mode?
 
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sTTu

Active Member
Gadjet said:
Having just watched Tron in 3D with the Panasonic 310 I had the 3d set to full hd 3d from the player, but full hd isn't on the X3. The only one that matches is side by side. But when set to that the picture quality was not as good. In detail and 3d. Found it again hard to see stand out 3d, but good 3d on pirates trailer at start.
Lost at moment with set up and 3d, resident evil 5 should come tomorrow which from reviews best 3d?
Biggest question from all my ramblings is can x3 do full hd 3d or does it have to be side by side. I put x3 to auto in 3d mode?
Thats odd, I've watched Tron in 3D several times on my X3 and the 3D is stunning, probably the most effective 3D movie I've tried on the PJ. You sure its setup right?
 

MeanDorris

Well-known Member
Gadjet said:
Having just watched Tron in 3D with the Panasonic 310 I had the 3d set to full hd 3d from the player, but full hd isn't on the X3. The only one that matches is side by side. But when set to that the picture quality was not as good. In detail and 3d. Found it again hard to see stand out 3d, but good 3d on pirates trailer at start.
Lost at moment with set up and 3d, resident evil 5 should come tomorrow which from reviews best 3d?
Biggest question from all my ramblings is can x3 do full hd 3d or does it have to be side by side. I put x3 to auto in 3d mode?
One of the earlier JVC firmware updates addressed issues with the Panasonic BD players, can't remember exactly what but is worth checking (if you search this thread I'm sure you will find the info).

I am confused by your side by side comment? There is no way it will work with the Panny in side by side mode and the X3 in auto, side by side always has to be manually selected and has two have a side by side source. Can you even set the player to output a particalr 3d moe?

Also, just to check, Tron does not go 3d until they enter the Grid, the real world part of the film at the beggining is resolutely 2d, may be why the Pirates trailer looked fine and Tron did not if you did not watch as far as the grid?
 

Gadjet

Novice Member
Cheers for quick reply, with panny had choice of side by side or full hd 3D, So watched full 3D and when in grid still hardly change. So then tried side by side, little better but obviously not 3d.
Had this problem before. can tell when not right because take glasses off and can still watch film. Isn't it supposed to be blurred, but with trailer it is good 3d.
Thats why I,m so confused and hoping it was the film but now you said it was so good I am gutted.
Cant be setting you only have to choose 3d in picture mode then auto in hdmi ? It uses gamma a if I choose B the picture flickers between bright and dark contrast.

Have I got a faulty projector? I hope Resident Evil comes today if this doesnt work, but you saying Tron is amazing wont make much difference???

Once again cheers for replies
 

sTTu

Active Member
Gadjet said:
Cheers for quick reply, with panny had choice of side by side or full hd 3D, So watched full 3D and when in grid still hardly change. So then tried side by side, little better but obviously not 3d.
Had this problem before. can tell when not right because take glasses off and can still watch film. Isn't it supposed to be blurred, but with trailer it is good 3d.
Thats why I,m so confused and hoping it was the film but now you said it was so good I am gutted.
Cant be setting you only have to choose 3d in picture mode then auto in hdmi ? It uses gamma a if I choose B the picture flickers between bright and dark contrast.

Have I got a faulty projector? I hope Resident Evil comes today if this doesnt work, but you saying Tron is amazing wont make much difference???

Once again cheers for replies
Id probably nip back to the shop with x3 and just get it tested,at least you will know if its that before you waste too much time checking your other kit.

Hope you get it sorted !
 

MovieMimz

Standard Member
Hi guys
I have a X3 and I keep getting these recurring problem
When I am watching my projector from any source I keep getting White lines or threads across the screen sometimes the picture will also flash
I have a pioneer LX53 hooked up
Tried it with a new HDMI lead
Have changed the amp once
Still getting the same issue
The only way to get rid of the lines is to turn my TV on at the same time then I get a clear picture ( strange )
Anyone got an idea
Please help
Thanks
 

mediamogul

Novice Member
Hi guys
I have a X3 and I keep getting these recurring problem
When I am watching my projector from any source I keep getting White lines or threads across the screen sometimes the picture will also flash
I have a pioneer LX53 hooked up
Tried it with a new HDMI lead
Have changed the amp once
Still getting the same issue
The only way to get rid of the lines is to turn my TV on at the same time then I get a clear picture ( strange )
Anyone got an idea
Please help
Thanks
Could it be a handshake issue ? The tv could be making the handshake fine and the X3 is struggling somewhere. A bad HDMI connection? how long is the run? I have had issues a little like you have mentioned,but sorted it with a better quality HDMI lead.
 

JonStatt

Well-known Member
Hi guys
I have a X3 and I keep getting these recurring problem
When I am watching my projector from any source I keep getting White lines or threads across the screen sometimes the picture will also flash
I have a pioneer LX53 hooked up
Tried it with a new HDMI lead
Have changed the amp once
Still getting the same issue
The only way to get rid of the lines is to turn my TV on at the same time then I get a clear picture ( strange )
Anyone got an idea
Please help
Thanks
It is either HDMI cable/connection issues or a faulty projector. A user in the US had very similar symptoms. However they could see the lines even when there was no signal coming into the projector. So you need to isolate whether you see the problem with nothing connected.
 

ARCAMFANBOY

Novice Member
Hi guys -

I just recieved my JVC X3, but I am noticing digital type noise. Im not sure what this is. It almost looks like what plasmas have. So im thinking its some sort of PWM noise.

It looks like in certain movies, like almost sparkly skies. It usually is in bright images. I know this is not my screen, since I put a studiotek 100 and it still exhibits this and does not decrease any bit.

Im thinking it may be HDMI problems. But before I go out and spend $40 a cable, could someone check something out first.

In the movie Frozen, does the daylight sky look shimmering like. I know I know, very boring movie. But this would help me out and save me some money on buying new hdmi cables and running through the ceiling conduits all over agian.

Im wondering if this is just grain of the film, and the projector is just making it more noticable.
 

ARCAMFANBOY

Novice Member
^^^^

Forgot to say that my firmware is at 1.1. I have not had a chance to update yet.

Also, I know frozen is a grainy movie to begin with, but almost all of my moview have this PWM type noise in them.
 

JonStatt

Well-known Member
^^^^

Forgot to say that my firmware is at 1.1. I have not had a chance to update yet.

Also, I know frozen is a grainy movie to begin with, but almost all of my moview have this PWM type noise in them.
It is normal but seems to reduce after the first few hours. It does appear to be a PWM type noise, but I am not aware of anyone who can see it from seated, especially after 20 hours or so.
 

MovieMimz

Standard Member
mediamogul

Thanks for your advise but I have now sorted it
As I was happening on all of my Sources it turns out it was the Pioneer Lx53 Amp it was interfering the signal going to the X3.
The Video converter was On in the amp so it was trying to up scale the picture (I Think)
But it now works perfectly
Thanks to everyone for advice maybe this will help others
 

Ideal AV

Distinguished Member
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My X3 arrived this morning, off work for a few days to install. Any advice welcome.
if its ceiling mounted make certain the fixings are VERY secure

just get it on,set it up, check pixel alignment and enjoy it

where`s it from btw?
 

john2910

Standard Member
Hello i heard the Philips PTA-03/00 shutter glasses work on this projector.

But do they also work when my jvc emitter is pointed at the screen like i do now?

Or do they lose sync.

Because i also have the xpand 101 glasses,i need to pull the battery to get the ir sync.
And with the emitter pointed on the screen i cannot move my head alot other wise i loose sync with the xpand 101(the pic quality is good).

I hope the philips will be better,or what do you recomend?
 

Rickyj at Kalibrate

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sTTu said:
Any possibilty of a group buy on these glasses ? I could do with an extra couple of pairs.
Dealers in the UK are already running at minimal margins on these, so I would suggest not;)

Sent from my HTC Desire using AVForums
 

Manni01

Well-known Member
john2910 said:
They are not losing sync when i point the emitter at the screen?

And the philips?

Best regards
I use both and they both work fine when pointing the emitter at the screen (from a distance of about 3.40m here).
The xpands 103 are great if you have displays from more than one brand as they are universal, but they are also more fiddly to use as you have to set them up (once) and switch them on (every time).
The philips are great for the price (about half the price of the xpands and a third of the price of the JVCs) but they are very slightly less bright than the 103, which are themselves very slightly less bright than the JVC. And of course, unlike the 103s, they only work with philips and jvc displays. Like the jvcs, there is no setup. Given the very reasonable price, it's not a big risk to buy one pair and see if you like them.
I use the JVCs for my wife and myself for optimum PQ, I give the 103 to my daughter (once I've checked they are on) and I give the philips to other children or third tier guests... If your screen retains more polarization than my carada brilliant white (which retains almost none), you may lose more brightness with other glasses compared to the JVCs, which provide the best quality and ease of use overall, even if only by a small margin in my setup. YMMV.
 
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john2910

Standard Member
I use both and they both work fine when pointing the emitter at the screen (from a distance of about 3.40m here).
The xpands 103 are great if you have displays from more than one brand as they are universal, but they are also more fiddly to use as you have to set them up and switch them on.
The philips are great for the price (about half the price of the xpands and a third of the price of the JVCs) but they are very slightly less bright than the 103, which are themselves very slightly less bright than the JVC. And of course, unlike the 103s, they only work with philips and jvc displays. Like the jvcs, there is no setup. Given the very reasonable price, it's not a big risk to buy one pair and see if you like them.
I use the JVCs for my wife and myself for optimum PQ, I give the 103 to my daughter (once I've checked they are on) and I give the philips to other children or third tier guests... If your screen retains more polarization than my carada brilliant white (which retains almost none), you may lose more brightness with other glasses compared to the JVCs, which provide the best quality and ease of use overall, even if only by a small margin in my setup. YMMV.
Thanx for your reply,

Does the philips turn them selfs on?

Is the color it pruduces the same as the jvc glasses?

Best regards,

O and what are your 3D settings if i may ask?
 

Manni01

Well-known Member
john2910 said:
Thanx for your reply,

Does the philips turn them selfs on?

Is the color it pruduces the same as the jvc glasses?

Best regards,

O and what are your 3D settings if i may ask?
Yes the philips switch on automatically when they detect the 3d signal. The tint is about the same on the three glasses but depending on your screen there might be a difference in brightness ranging from insignificant to very significant compared to the jvc.
I use the A gamma curve in the 3d preset with a slight adjustment of the lower gamma using dark/light adjustment to get better shadow detail in the low end of the curve (A looks better than B to my eyes in a bat cave but can crush blacks slightly).
 
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john2910

Standard Member
Yes the philips switch on automatically when they detect the 3d signal. The tint is about the same on the three glasses but depending on your screen there might be a difference in brightness ranging from insignificant to very significant compared to the jvc.
I use the A gamma curve in the 3d preset with a slight adjustment of the lower gamma using dark/light adjustment to get better shadow detail in the low end of the curve (A looks better than B to my eyes in a bat cave but can crush blacks slightly).
Thx for the reply,

Do u use also the 8500 setting?

And the other settings?

What do you mean exactly with the dark/light adjustment?

I am also in a bad cave.

Is the ghosting worse with half sbs files?
 

Manni01

Well-known Member
Thx for the reply,

Do u use also the 8500 setting?

And the other settings?

What do you mean exactly with the dark/light adjustment?

I am also in a bad cave.

Is the ghosting worse with half sbs files?
I am using the default 3D preset with the A gamma preset (instead of the default B), I just slightly adjust the dark/light settings in the preset, they allow you to adjust the lower/upper end of the gamma curve. Just ignore this if you don't know what this mean, it's makes a very small difference.

I've only tried 3D blurays, no files so no idea about half sbs files.
 

john2910

Standard Member
Does anybody know when i set the hdmi to normal i get realy good blacks,

But when i do a test pattern for contrast its realy washed out.

Does any body know how to get this right in normal mode(hdmi)
 

Manni01

Well-known Member
Does anybody know when i set the hdmi to normal i get realy good blacks,

But when i do a test pattern for contrast its realy washed out.

Does any body know how to get this right in normal mode(hdmi)
To adjust black levels you should put the pattern for brightness (assuming your using the AVS HD disc, which is recommended).

Pattern for contrast is for white levels. You can't adjust the black level with the contrast pattern, so it's normal if it looks washed out.

In HDMI normal (recommended setting), if your source is in normal as well, settings for brightness and contrast should be very close to 0, if no at 0.

It is better to use the dark/bright adjustment I already mentioned if your blacks are crushed, as the brightness control is too coarse and usually at +1 it will raise your black level.
 

john2910

Standard Member
To adjust black levels you should put the pattern for brightness (assuming your using the AVS HD disc, which is recommended).

Pattern for contrast is for white levels. You can't adjust the black level with the contrast pattern, so it's normal if it looks washed out.

In HDMI normal (recommended setting), if your source is in normal as well, settings for brightness and contrast should be very close to 0, if no at 0.

It is better to use the dark/bright adjustment I already mentioned if your blacks are crushed, as the brightness control is too coarse and usually at +1 it will raise your black level.
Man thanx for your reply,

I got it,with my panasonic bdt310 blurayplayer i needed to turn down the contrast. about -4

And indeed on the projector very close to 0.

What a great picture does de x3 have:)

I came from the epson tw5000 with also had a great picture.

But this projector is slightly better:)

And i have the 3d now,wich i love
 

ARCAMFANBOY

Novice Member
Can someone tell me how to set the lens mechanism back to default [the way I first got it from the factory].

I want to get rid of some horizontal lens shift, its causing vertical convergence to go out. I was just messing around with lens shift I forgot how many clicks I set it at. When I sell this for next years projectors, I want to make sure I reset everything for the buyer of my projector to cause less issues.

In the service menu there are a few options...
-Lens reset
or
-Lens center >


Any suggestions if I should even do this or if this can cause issues or damage? I called JVC support and they said there is nothing that does this.
 

Manni01

Well-known Member
ARCAMFANBOY said:
Any suggestions if I should even do this or if this can cause issues or damage? I called JVC support and they said there is nothing that does this.
They are right.

The only way to do this is to move the lens shift all the way to the left, mark the left edge of the picture on the wall, move it all the way to the right, mark the right edge of the picture, measure the distance between the two marks, mark the middle and align the picture so that the center of the picture is aligned with the mark in the middle.

You should make sur there is no or little v-shift, as extreme v-shift limits h-shift.

You can also zoom the picture down before doing this if your room is width limited.
 

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