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JVC HD-ILA Technology

Discussion in 'Televisions' started by Suave, Dec 2, 2004.

  1. Suave

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    VJHello Everyone,

    I thought I might share something interesting I encountered while I was in the USA. I have seen alot of Rear Projection TV's over here and the US and to my eyes, the best I have ever seen is (don't laugh!) are Rear Projection models from JVC! (can you believe that?) They use something called HD-ILA Technology which they claim is far superior to DLP, LCOS or LCD. I tend to be a bit skeptical these days about all the marketing blurb but I can tell you that comparing the picture on a JVC model with this HD-ILA thing (a 55" set), it was simply STUNNING - far better than any other RPTV there (and there were loads). I have seen the SIM2 picture which is great and believe me, the JVC was better - it was very life-like, and had incredible detail and depth of image - just freaking fantastic! You have to see it to believe it.

    As far as I know, we in the UK cannot get these HD-ILA models as JVC thinks we are not good enough or there is no market for them here, but I was wondering if anyone else has heard of, had experience with and seen this technology? It would be interesting to see others opinions - my point is as JVC claim this knocks the socks of any other competing technology out there, why then do they not sell it over here? From what I saw, it blew my socks off! If there was a way to get one, I would very seriously consider it!

    Suave!
     
  2. Gordon @ Convergent AV

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    Hey Mr Suave. D-Ila is LCOS.......I've seen them too. They in turn are blown away by Sony's rear pro tv based on their take on LCOS....Sony call it SXRD. I didn't think the JVC's were that special to be truthfull.

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    Hi,

    I've seen this online at the JVC website: http://www.jvc.com/product.jsp?productId=PRD4208500&pathId=114

    Nice looking sets.

    I previously tired to contact JVC's UK Consumer Products people who sent me an email, stating that they didn't know if it would be coming to the UK, and to contact the "Professional" arm of JVC!

    I didn't bother looking any further!

    :mad:
     
  5. Suave

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    Hi Gordon,

    Thanks for your input! You mentioned H-ILA - the one I saw was HD-ILA there newset High definition version - have you seen that? If as you say that normal H-ILA was not as good as I thought, then maybe, just maybe, I was watching some kind of High Definition material on the HD-ILA JVC RPTV. Either way, whatever is best, this HD-ILA thing or the new Sony Technology that is given in the previous link, it looks like its all destined for those fat, dumb and happy Americans and we Brits may possibly lose out on it or wait ages before we get it! Please inform me, then, in your opinion, what is the very best technology that we can get here in terms of pic quality on a RPTV? that would save me some headache in finding out!

    Thanks
    Suave!
     
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    Suave: It was the latest and greatest Dila from JVC. It was the latest and greatest SXRD/DILA/LCOS from Sony. I'd have had a Sony. I think LCOS is a nice technology. I think CRT is a nice technology too....

    Gordon
     
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    Thought I would revive this old thread to say that the UK will finally be getting HD-ILA sets. A 56" and a 70" are launching soon.
     
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    Dates :)
    And can anyone link to US specs.
     
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    Dear American visitors and frequent users of this fine forum..... Mr Suave unfortunately does not live up to his name :rolleyes:

    Back on topic, any further details on the JVC, I am waiting for the 70" SXRD at the moment, good to see some competition.
     
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    Later this month hopefully. I've had a quick look and I can't find anything similar from the US. Model numbers are HD-56ZR7J and HD-70ZR7J so you may be able to find some more information with a bit of digging on the Interweb. They won't be on the JVC site yet. I'll post some more details when I can.

    I've tested the 56". If only my lounge were big enough...
     
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    My lounge is just right for a 56" set, so do tell what you thought :)

    What with these, the new Samsungs and the SXRD's in the Autumn, it could be a pretty good year for rear pro
     
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    From What Video & Widescreen TV April 2006 – Full Page Article

    JVC HD-ILA Hybrid Televisions

    70” – HD-70ZR7J £3,500
    56” – HD –56ZR7J £2,500

    Due in UK in Spring.
     
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    WOW, those prices are good. THe Sony 55" is to come out @ £2,600 or so.

    But these maybe RRP prices :)
     
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    Hmm. The Sony SXRD devices aren't due till Autumn, but they are expected to be full 1080p rather than only 720p. The 55" Sony model is expected at £2500 and the 70" at £4500.
     
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    Specs here:
    http://www.jvc.co.uk/site/hd-ila/geraete_z70.php
    http://www.jvc.co.uk/site/hd-ila/geraete_z56.php

    Basic equipment:

    * 20 W Total Audio Power
    * HDMI Connection
    * PC Input
    * 3 SCARTs


    Other equipment:

    * 3-Chip D-ILA LCOS Technology
    * HD ready
    * DynaPix powered by D.I.S.T. (Digital Image Scaling Technology) for High-resolution Picture
    * Response time 2.5 ms
    * Brightness 900 cd/m²
    * Dynamic Picture Management
    * Colour Management
    * Digital Comb Filter
    * Digital Noise Suppression
    * 3D Sound
    * BBE® Sound System
    * PAP (Picture-and-Picture)
    * Freeze and Swap (sound select)
    * PIP (Picture-in-Picture) (12 pictures)
    * Picture and Text Dual Screen
    * Widescreen Picture Modes
    * Dimensions (W x H x D):
    1318 x 968 x 439 (mm)
     
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    Also coming out late March :)
     
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    Just when I had settled on a LCD TV! I will definately have to audition a Sony or JVC HD-ILA!

    BTW - a good price - £1999 - I saw for the JVC 56" is here:

    http://***********/hso5e

    :thumbsup:
     
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    Really intrested in this :)
     
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    hi guys

    someone knows the aquivalent US-model-types??
    for to check the opinions of the us-users.
    it is new in US too or are they "old" models with inferior technology?

    greetings
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    Should be close to these two:
    http://www.hdtvsolutions.com/JVC-HD-56G886.htm
    http://www.hdtvsolutions.com/JVC-HD-70G886.htm

    Early reviews were mixed but the newer ones are promising.

    1080 models are already out in the US but it looks like we will get only 720 for now.
     
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    For those of you loving the JVC HD-ILA 56/70" Hybrid TV's, here are a few key specs for you...

    Contrast Ratio: 56": 2000:1 / 70": 2000:1
    Brightness: 56": 900cd/m2 / 70": 600cd/m2
    Response Rate: 56": 2.5ms / 70": 2.5ms

    Pretty impressive if you ask me!!!! and at a very competitive price.
     
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    Not sure if this has been posted elsewhere but John Lewis in Oxford Street now have both of the JVC's on display now.
    Was in there today and all I can say is :thumbsup:

    They were Asian models apparently that are on display ( was a JVC guy fiddling with the 70inch ).

    Both displaying Hi Def and I was absolutely blown away. Well worth the visit if your in that neck of the woods!
     
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    Hi all,

    The new JVC HD-ILA sets (56" and 70") are now available in the UK, have seen them listed on the Empire Direct website at £2,350 and £3,200 - they will have to have a much better picture to justify their extra cost over DLP!
     
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    This isnt DLP? I thought it was. Is it LCD RPTV?
     
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    Rather like, what's the difference between RootBeer, Cola, and Dandelion & Burdock.

    D-ILA is not DLP nor LCD. It is another, pixel-based, way of modulating light to produce an image. And it can be used in either Front- or Rear-Projection, but not Direct-View (AFAIK).
     
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    OMG it's hard enough as it is to try and find an optimum screen for the money on these forums when trying to come to make a choice between the DLP, LCD and Plasma sets and now we have this new technology. Is it a hydrid or completely new??

    I remember when the buzzword was LCOS.......are these sets LCOS then? Also what advantages will these sets have over conventianal DLP and will the Sony ones be similar or superior?
     
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    Yeah it is LCOS I think, I lost my mind for a second. SXRD by Sony is also LCOS, they are just badged up.
     
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    More info from JVC. At the risk of over-simplifying things, it's probably true to say it's a different (better, some might say) way of using LCD crystals. It isn't micro-mirrors as in DLP.

    It is, it seems, very similar to Sony's LCOS. Different brand names for much the same thing, I suspect.

    In any case, aside from being pre-armed with a basic knowledge of any inherent weaknesses a given technology might have when choosing (DLP rainbows for example), surely we should not get a all hung up about exactly what's driving our TV; merely how good it is.
     
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    it is supposed to be extremely good afaik.
    :D

    greets
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