I must admit i am going abit crazy about getting a good budget dv camcorder. It seems really hard to find out what is the right camera with the best possible lowlight indoors image quality for a low price. The JVC-GRD23 (JVC-GRD33 in the US) seems to be a good low light camera in the camcorderinfo.com review but then i heard some comments that suggests that both the gr-d33 and gr-d72 has pretty crappy lowlight performance. This is strange because the gr-d33 scores much better then the other dv cams in this price segment which totally baffles me. I want a camera that can take very good video with only 40w-60w light bulbs how much would this be in lux and does the gr-d33 do the job. I have been to various dealers but they wont let me test the dv cams at all so its extremely hard to really know what performance i can get from this dv camera. I know also that this camera was reviewed in the may issue of Whatcamcorder anyone here who has read the review for gr-d23 as it is called in europe ? I would appreciate if someone could tell me what they think about the lowlight performance and maybe even provide some small clips from general indoor daylight and also indoor lowlight. Just so i can get a general idea what to expect. Also does the inbuilt led lighting work well ? Is there any other camera in this price segment that performs just as well and also has a mic in option ? I would really appriciate if someone could take the time to answer my questions so i don't have to be disappointed with an eventual purchase. I am perhaps more picky about video quality then others but at the same time i don't want to pay too much money. But i will mainly shoot indoors video so the performance indoors is of paramount importance.