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Just how lucky are those yanks !

Discussion in 'LCD & LED LCD TVs Forum' started by paulfoley, May 12, 2005.

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  1. paulfoley

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    Have a look at this spec for a new LCD TV, on sale soon in the US.

    A 37" video monitor that features a super-bright, high contrast 1920x1080 LCD / VGA, Component & DVI Connections / Great for TV or Computer Use.

    Westinghouse 37" Video Monitor - This 37" video monitor features a super-bright, high contrast 1920x1080 progressive scan LCD panel. Which is enhanced with Faroudja's DCDi and TrueLife video processing, delivering state-of-the-art video performance. It also features VGA, component, and DVI connections. Making this a perfect choice for computers, TV, and game consoles!
    2 Detachable 20 Watt Speakers
    Native Resolution - 1920 x 1080
    Aspect Ratio - 16:9
    HDTV Ready - 480p, 720p, & 1080i
    Brightness (cd/m2) - 550
    Contrast Ratio - 600:1
    Viewing Angle - (horizontal/vertical ) 176 Degrees
    Response Time - 12ms
    Display Colors - 16.7 Million True Colors
    Inverse 3:2 Pulldown
    50,000 Hour Lamp Life
    Progressive Scan
    Aspect Ratio Conversion
    PIP
    Freezing Picture
    3D Video Processing
    3D Comb Filter
    Connectors - 1 Composite In / 1 S-Video In (adapter included) / 2 Component (YPbPr) (adapter included) / 2 DVI-HDCP / 1 RGB/VGA/PC In / 1 Audio In (mini) / 5 Audio In (Dual RCA)
    Wall Mountable
    Cabinet Color - Silver
    Unit Dimensions (w/ stand) - 28.5" (h) x 36.6" (w) x 8.4" (d)
    Unit Weight (w/ stand) - 56 lbs.
    Unit Dimensions (w/o stand) - 23" (h) x 36.6" (w) x 4.5" (d)


    Not bad eh, now for the price - £1100.00 !!! I'm moving to America asap, reckon it will take about 3 more years for us to get gear at that price ! BTW -Westinghouse is the electronics arm of Viacom.

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    Hopefully it will be more reliable than their signalling equipment on the Jubilee and Central lines ;)
     
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    Hmmmm how does someone fancy importing one of them babies over? I'm sure they'd fetch a tidy profit on good ol' Ebay?

    Sounds stunning spec for that price!!

    Might just have to attempt to sneak one past customs in my hand luggage ;)

    Ben
     
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    It is well specced OK, but is still not all that advanced....

    It's Contrast Ratio and Response time are just about OK, and it's increased resolution may actually be a bit of a curse. The higher resolution of existing 1366 x 768 LCD's already gives then trouble handling SD broadcasts. This sort of resolution really does require HD broadcasts, and 1080i would look stunning! (No 1080p though...) None of the other specs are all that unusual. It also has no scarts and no tuner.

    Having said all that, for computer and gaming use it would be a belter! And I could easily forgive it's lack of scarts due to its superb range of other connections.

    Don't despair, I'm pretty sure that later this summer we will have some pretty similarly specced TV's to choose from. The 42" PF9830 will be 1920 x 1080 and will have DVI and HDMI connections and better Response and Contrast than this yank Monitor. It'll be more than twice the price though....nearly 3 times actually.

    Start saving.
     
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    Don't try to import a TV from the USA. There are too many differences between US and European models, it will only cause you grief.
     
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    That's because the inbuilt scaling and deinterlacing electronics are crap. At that price you could easily afford to buy a Lumagen HDP scaler or something else that does an equally good job of scaling SD up to 1920x1080.
     
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    Sounds pretty advanced to me, would be a perfect partner to my WUXGA Dell 9300 with external DVI, I could view 1080p in all its glory and get dot for dot resolution, it would also be a suitable panel for the new Tosh SD-350E DVD player which can upscale to 1080p, would suit HTPC use also as the resolution although a bit on the high side is PC friendly (with a suitable Video Card) sounds quite similar specs to the new Benq 37" (only advertised in the US).
     
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    Twas only a joke :smashin:
     
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    Just a thought, but doesn't this sound very much like the 37 inch version of that Benq 32?
     
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    As I said in my post, this TV would be fantastic with a suitable PC. But that's about it. It also doesn't list 1080p as one of its display options....probably would display it though....

    All a bit beside the point.

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    These new westinghouse lcd's are being "raved" about at the avsforums, from what i've read it's a very good lcd on top of that...how i hate to be an european. In the netherlands, practically no supplier even has toshiba on their list.... :(
     
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    What's the worst that could happen (ignoring any problems with warranty/damage/shipping) ?
     
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    - incompatible power supply (110v/60Hz)
    - incompatible color standard (NTSC)
    - incompatible tuner (different frequency range/steps, different sound carrier offset)
    - incompatible connections (no SCART, no RGB)
    - incompatible teletext system, if even available
    - incompatible stereo sound system
     
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    Woah thanks! That told me. Really useful info though if I were to do all my research before considering importing.
     
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    Above.
     
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    :D :thumbsup:

    Nice avatar :)
     
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    I can't see what the excitement is about this set. A bit of numbers marketing but the same chipsets and panels that we get here.

    The only difference is the price, largely the result of the fact that we have a Health Service.

    As a cancer survivor I tend to think that paying couple of hundred notes extra on the price of the TV is better value than over £50k's worth of medical care for free.
     
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    600:1 colour ratio says it all really...and what £1100? Haha no thanks...

    You can get the Samsung LE37R74BDX which has 1300:1 colour ratio or 5000:1 dynamic for around £1150 online which to me is a far better deal :smashin:
     
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    SuperSaiyan, do you work for Samsung or something? :D

    You mean the contrast ratio. Also since the LE37R74BDX has a 1366x768 panel and this thread is about a 1080p LCD, I don't see how it's relevant?...

    I do agree that the TV doesn't seem to be worth that much fuss though. Do remember that as far as I'm aware, a lot of North American LCDs don't accept any sort of 50hz signal meaning they're stuck with

    Whereas over here almost all our equipment supports 50 and 60hz by default. That's worth more money alone, IMHO. Imagine living in the US and being stuck with whatever NTSC DVDs you were handed, when sometimes better (or less censored) versions come out in PAL places. (Of course, it can be the other way around too - so it pays to be able to play both!)
     
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    Contrast ratios can be taken with a pinch of salt, same with response times :)
     
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    Just to update the thread a bit with the specs for the new westinghouse :

    37" 1080p Monitor
    LVM-37w3

    Official page here


    Display Specifications
    Viewable Screen Size 37" Diagonal
    16:9 Aspect ratio
    Native/Optimum Resolution 1920 x 1080
    16.7 Million colors
    Compatible Modes
    NTSC
    HD Ready
    PC 480i
    480p, 720p, 1080i, 1080p
    1920 x 1080, 640 x 480, 800 x 600, 1024 x 768
    Contrast Ratio 1000:1
    Brightness 550 cd/m2
    Color Gamut 75% NTSC
    Lamp Life 60,000 Hrs
    Viewing Angle 176° Horizontal
    176° Vertical
    Response Time 8 ms


    Audio 2-15 watt speakers
    Video Processing Progressive Scan, Aspect Ratio Conversion, CCS (Cross Color Suppressor), 3D Noise Reduction, PIP, Inverse 3:2 pulldown, Freezing Picture, 3D Video Processing, 3D Comb Filter
    Connectors

    QTY
    TYPE
    FORMATS SUPPORTED

    1
    HDMI(R)-HDCP + L/R Audio
    480i/p, 720p, 1080i, 1080p

    2
    DVI -HDCP + L/R Audio
    480i/p, 720p, 1080i, 1080p

    1
    VGA/D-Sub/RGB + Audio mini jack
    480i/p, 720p, 1080i, 1080p

    2
    YPbPr Component Video + L/R Audio
    480i/p, 720p, 1080i

    1
    S-Video+ L/R Audio
    480i

    1
    Composite Video + L/R Audio
    480i

    1
    L/R Audio out, Switched, Fixed Volume



    Physical Dimensions 25.9" x 37.3" x 8.2" (with Base)
    50 lbs (with Base)
    23.8" x 37.3" x 4.7" (w/o Base)
    43 lbs (w/o Base)
     
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    Oof...

    No mention of 576i/576p in there at all either. Whether that's down to total incompatibility or just failing to mention it is anyone's guess. Seeing as Westinghouse LCDs don't seem to be available outside North America, I would assume the former.

    Just to add more to what I said earlier. IMO being able to play back video from anywhere in the world is a feature I think is worth thousands, and as I said it's now more or less a standard feature here in Europe. OK, so we have to contend with SCART, but we really don't have it as bad as you might think.
     

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