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Just Bought A New car need advice about my ICE

Discussion in 'ICE, Sat Navs & Dash Cams Forum' started by stealther, Jan 20, 2003.

  1. stealther

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    As the thread says Ive just bought a Mk2 Golf Gti and am looking for some advice before I reinstall my ICE from me old motor. I am keen to get it right first time this time round!
    The kit ive got is a Panasonic 40watts Head unit, Panasonic CD Changer, a pair of Kenwood KFC - 6976 (6"*9") and a pair of Kenwood KFC- HQ135 (4 1/2" Mids) all are in excellant condition seeing as they have been in three cars already!

    Anyway Does anyone have experience with Installs on Mk2 Golfs any general advice?

    Particularly Can I/where and how can i get the Mids in the front doors?

    Any advice I can get will be appreciated as Iam starting to reinstall on Wednesday When Ive had me Alarm and Imoby installed.

    Thanks
     
  2. Dave20

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    i used to own a mk2 golf, and worked as a car audio technician for 5 years heh.. you can do wonders with these cars and are probably one of the best cars for acoustics.. the front doors are easy to do, either buy the door pockets which house speakers (5¼" though) or build your own door pods with mdf etc. to be honest it depends on how much money you want to spend
     
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    Howdy ,

    Well firstly , STELTHER congrats for your new car MK2 Golf.

    Ok about the soundz, have some advice ..its my thoughts ...

    As you sit in front fo the car , you need to have good sound stage at the front so that you can enjoy the tunes ...i am guess that the 6*9's you have from your old car were in the back and you probably thinking about puting them in the back again in you new Golf. may i recommend for you to put them in the front ! yes in the front you just need to get some MDF and cut a collar for the 6*9's and away you go , you'll have great sound stage at the front of the car and use your 4inch speakers in the back as rear sound fill. wot you think?

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    Are you considering going for Sub's ? if you do i'd recommend the Rocky fosgate XLC 15 inch subs ,,,you will be happy with the one sub ina fully sealed inclosed box (no ports dont like ports and free air stuff) anyways this 15 inch rocky sub will give you the really low bass and will also deliver the heavy punch ..its suited for soul, Rnb , drum N bass , techno all sort of music ! its a great sub ! I've have 12 8inch subs , 6 of 10inch subs (kenwood) , 6 12 inch subs (pioneer) but non compared tot he performance of 4 15inch rocky subs ...its great ! its rated at 200 W rms but in properly designed sealed box (airtight) you can drive it harder and this sub performs ! its great !


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    well good luck ..and keep us posted with what you do for you golf
     
  4. ytgti

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    Good choice stealther. Join the Club! :)

    No doubt about it stealther. The mids it the doors, 6x9's in the parcel shelf! But its up to you!!

    Hasn't your car got door pockets with speakers in them. Also what year is it?. Is it a '90 spec with one peice windows in the doors, or has it got the Quarter light windows?

    There is the dash locations as well, but ive never put any in them because of how angled to the window they are. Plus ive heard they sound crap!

    Good look.
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    Well as i had thought ..most people stick to the norm, well mids in the front and 6*9's on the shelf in the back as you previously had will be ok ...but as i pointed out ...the main source of music will be from the 6*9's. the 6*9's compaired to the 4 inch mids will produce more music than the mids ... by having the mids up front and 6*9's on the shelf its going to be relativly easy to install however having the 6*9's on the front doors also is pretty easy too.

    to me it makes sense to have a good solid sound stage up front as you the driver sits up front ! and your mids in the back as sound fill for the rear!

    I am sure this will work ! it just needs small effort on your part to install the 6*9's in the fron doors. you'll get richer fuller sound up front where you will be !

    about the Headunit i think there is a slot on the dashboard for it standard DIN E size unless your headunit is a double DIN or some other size then you might need to rethink where to put it and what part you need to modify on the dash.

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    Good luck
     
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    well just another thought...

    if your finances allow then go for components up front 5icnh or 6inch set these again are easy to install. you should mount the tweeters on the pillars and direction them to your siting position as tweeter are very directional,

    somthing for you to consider.

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    Good luck !
     
  7. stealther

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    Thanks for all the advice guys.

    khalilk your right i hadnt even considered putting the 6x9 in the front this is something I might consider because you make a good point. As for a sub those days are over Iam afraid before I came to uni I used to have a pair of 12" JL Audio Subs propelling my car along and was said by all that my system rocked.
    Sadly I had to sell them over three years ago to a mate and there still going strong he reckons! (needed the boot space for the journeys to and from uni).
    If and when I ever finish uni it ill be the second thing I buy after I buy a corrado VR6 that is:D

    Anyway Iam having the alarm and imboliser done later on today that leaves me the rest of the week I have of from work and uni to play.

    The thing is Iam now more undecided then ever:)

    I already have 18mm thick mdf collars which I painstakingly covered in black insulation tape to achieve a nice smooth black affect for the mids, that was the only way I could get them in the escort factory positions. The trouble is where they were in the escort you couldnt hear them over the 6x9 in the back. i dont wont to end up in a similar situation again.

    ytgti
    Its the pre 90 Golf with the quater lite windows but I thought the front speakers were in the foot well havent really noticed cause theres no radio in at all yet. 9 still to busy playing with the digital display thingy and listening to the engine growl)

    Iam tempted to just slap the radio in and connect it to the standard job speakers at the mo as being away at uni I only have a small amount of tools with me i.e. cordless drill some spanners and some screwdrivers.

    But I know it will drive me :mad:

    khalilk Iam warming towards your idea how thick do you think I would have to make the collars for the 6x9s and where abouts do you think I would be able to put them? I wonder if my mom will post me my jigsaw:D

    Anymore advice would be well apreciated cheers.
     
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    Hello again...

    Well i am not sure of how much space there is in the door cavity you might consider making some kind of wedge shaped coller so that you can direct the 6 x 9' s to suite your listening / driving position.

    Well I know you can buy ready made collars for various size speakers including 6x9's shapes , you will need your mom to post you your jig saw ( he he he)

    i gues the most room will be in the door near the footwell / floor to ward the front of the car (if you know what i mean) and with wedge shape collars you can point the 6 x 9's upwards to your driving position.

    Good luck ....

    PS what uni are you in ? I am in Australia Sydney working now ..but not too long ago was in Swansea uni (wales UK) studying Materials Engineering.
     
  9. stealther

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    Iam at Plymouth uni mate, In australia so that explains why your online at 2am our time as for me I only sleep about once or twice a week:D

    Cheers for the advice
     
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    Cheers...good luck with uni bro'

    and good luck with the Golf stereo install.

    its 1 pm here in Sydeny and the suns out , the temp outside is 41 deg C ... a bit on the warm side !
     
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    3 way 6x9 speakers in the front? argh /me runs off (and you talk about good staging heh).
     
  12. stealther

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    Take it u disagree with Khalik on the 6x9 in the front issue. There 4 way not 3 way speakers they have two tweeters!

    Still havent decided what to do yet:rolleyes:
    Its not like me to be indecisive iam usually very impulsive take the car for instance I test drove a gti last week loved it and a few days later I bought one.:)

    The car is in having the alarm done now so will start the re install this afternoon or tomorrow depending on how long it takes them.
     
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    As a rule the smaller the better for staging idealy a 4" or 5" driver.

    Mark
     
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    If you ask me, its pointless putting smaller speakers in the back and larger in the front as they will drown the rears out!
     
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    well as you have mentioned that the small speakers if put in the back will not be heard due to more music coming from the 6*9's at the front therefore its safe to say if you were to put the 4inh mids in the front and the 6*9s on the back shelf then wouldnt the same be true that the 6*9
    s again will drown the 4inch minds at the front , leaving you with a soundstage that is more scewd to he back end of the car and not the front where the driver is sat !

    Its just a thought ...i think it will work !
     
  16. stealther

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    Well what can I say did I choose the wrong people to fit my alarm!
    It took them all day yesterday to fit the alarm and I had to take it back this morning so they could reconnect the central locking. They then broke my central locking motor so now I have an alarm but no central locking until Friday when they r having the car back to fit a new motor. At least they didnt try to charge me for the motor.

    Anyway Iam starting my install tomorrow does anyone know what size fuse I should have in my cd changer as Ive lost the inline fuse from the yellow power cable?
    cheers
     
  17. Dave20

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    for my first 5 years of working. i used to install car audio and car alarms for a wel established company. the mk2 golfs should take 3-4 hours for a catergory one, unless you went for a **** clifford :p and an extra 1 hour to fit the central locking motor in the door.

    in my golf i had 6½ componants in the front and 2 15's in the boot.. this was all top stuff with plenty of amps to cope. this sounded great, and it was a shame i could never take it to a show.

    panasonic changer i take it? (only one i can think that has the power lead heh) it should say on the side of the bezzel.. generally 5 amp would suffice. i dont know the exact though
     

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