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Jurassic park superbit

Discussion in 'Movie Forum' started by Ufotone, Oct 25, 2005.

  1. Ufotone

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    Hi everyone

    In eagerness to see this DVD, I just bought one on ebay.

    Are there any sure fire ways to tell if my copy is genuine or not?

    many thanks for your help

    Tony :)
     
  2. Seth Gecko

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    Well if you paid about $10 for it, I'm guessing fake.

    Run it through DVD Decrypter and if it is Multi Region that would also be a give-away.

    As I mentioned on another thread, it should have an IFPI number on the hub - if not, again it's counterfeit.
     
  3. Ufotone

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    Thanks for your quick reply, just downloaded DVD Decrypter...and yep it say's
    region 1, 2,3,4,5,6,7,8 RCE protection: no

    Guess I've been sold counterfeit goods then :mad:

    Paid by Paypal...never done a chargeback before but looks like I'm goibg to have to now!
     
  4. Rob100

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    Another give away is that Superbit discs are Columbia/Tristar titles and Jurassic Park is a Universal title.

    Best of luck getting your money back!

    Rob.
     
  5. Ufotone

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    Can anyone advise me on the correct way to go about things here :lease:

    Tony
     
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    While the above is true, Columbia in Japan has Universal distribution rights, hence there were Jurassic Park Superbit titles released in Japan, which are now out of print and fetch quite a bit of cash for the real deal.
     
  7. Seth Gecko

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    There's a dispute protocol on the PayPal website - just follow that (tis easy to do)

    You CAN go to your credit card company and dispute it (which I've done but PayPal got a little upset and asked me to next time use them first - but AmEx were MUCH quicker to deal with ;) )
     
  8. KevD

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    It wasnt a buy it now for £35 quid?
    I saw someone selling this one as genuine, although had the giveaway "DVD9" logo.
    Contacted him to tell him it wasnt genuine and he informed me he had bought the Jurassic Park 1,2 and 3 Superbit pack ( :confused: ) and thats why it loked different and didnt have the slipcase.
    I reported it to ebay, but what the hell are they gonna do! :suicide:
     
  9. Rob100

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    Okay, didn't know that - I stand corrected!

    Rob.
     
  10. Ufotone

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    Yes Kev, that's the one.....I asked the seller this question before buying..." Hi, please can you confirm this DVD is a 100% genuine R2 jap superbit and not a copy" He just refered me to the link where it states its genuine not a copy ETC, would put it here for all to see but dont know how....LOL

    Guess I shouild have known better really.
     
  11. Seth Gecko

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    I don't believe the JP superbits came in a box set - all 3 of mine are individual in slipcases. I've seen the boxset on ebay and defo fake.

    Sorry dude, but you should stand a chance with PayPal and/or your card issuer.
     
  12. CrispyXUK

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    well if its an exact copy it won't be a problem, whats the file size?

    BTW, if you own a copy of Jurassic Park on DVD and also have a "copy" of it, is that illegal?
     
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    Well, I guess any pirate that knows how to make cash isn't going to use dual layer blanks, so your going to lose video bitrate on even the best of copies...

    As for the legality, as far as I am aware, it is now illegal to use (or even DISCUSS) methods to circumvent copy-protection. So it is illegal AFAIK.
     
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    Sorry Seth, I'm not sure I agree with you as I thought Superbit DVDs were not region coded!

    Look at the bottom of the CD-WOW advert
    http://www2.cd-wow.com/detail_results_2.php?product_code=6173&affid=12376

    "By reallocating data normally used for value-added content, Superbit DVDs can be encoded at double their normal bit rate while maintaining full compatibility with the DVD-Video format. The result is picture quality that provides outstanding detail. Superbit DVDs play on all DVD players"

    Then again, I am often wrong!
    But anyways a sure test is if you run DVD decrypter on it and the disk is bigger than 4.35 gig, it is likely to be legit.
     
  15. shaithis

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    The way they market SuperBit I wouldn't be surprised if that actually meant "You dont need a SuperBit DVD Player to play them"
     
  16. Seth Gecko

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    Shaithis is spot on - it's a marketing ploy. It's to make it sound like you get something "better" than a regular DVD without hardware as opposed to lack of region coding.

    If you think about it - Columbia Tri-Star were the ones who started encoding disks with RCE, so it's highly improbable that they'd release region free disks.
     
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    I recently got duped on Ebay from a dude in Australia on the set who SWORE they were legit and that they were R2. They werent. Boots. Were region-free as confirmed by playing in my Dell laptop which is R1. BUT... whoever duped it did a DAMN good job as they were MUCH better looking than my R1 copies and the DTS was stellar. I bitched to the ebay seller who had a GREAT feedback record. He gave me a bunch of options including full refund but I wound up keeping them with a partial refund that matched what he paid from his asian distributor. I kept all 3 for like $30 USD. Worth it for the improved PQ and audio IMHO. But I wouldn't have bought them if I had known beforehand.

    Too bad the legit R2 Japanese Sbs are so pricy, (I have a legit CE3k which is terrific) and that they go OOP.
     
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    I believe Superbit titles are usually encoded regions 1, 2 and 4, i would love to buy Jurassic Park Superbit and i wish they would re-release this but i guess maybe the rights to do this have passed in Japan.
     
  19. Seth Gecko

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    Certainly wasn't true on the disk I checked but hey, to many on the forums, it's ultimately immaterial as we mostly have MR players I'd imagine.
     
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    there has never been a jurassic park superbit box set.The box sets that are advertised on ebay are fakes :rolleyes: but you can get each film seperately on japanese superbit which are worth anything between £60-£90 a dvd :thumbsup:
     
  21. Ian C.

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    I picked up JP2 on another forum mint £45
    JP3 movietyme(got lucky 1 left)£50,what looked like
    a genuine JP went for £52+postage a couple
    of months ago on e-bay.com.
     
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    I've read on these forums on many occasions that pirate DVDs do in fact use dual layer discs, also a lot of these DVDs are professionally manufactured in factories making them 1:1 copies.

    Superbit DVDs are region encoded well my Hollow Man Superbit deluxe and Das Boot region 3 are definitely region coded. While my Spiderman 2 Superbit region 3 lacks region coding which surprised me greatly especially since I purchased it from a legitimate source being Korean DVDs.com
     
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    In my experiences, anything thats R3 has a chance to be region free and/or non-protected.
     
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    yeap, from wut i read they are pressed (not burnt from a dvd player), with boxes and have authetic looking dvd labels on the discs, if they are dvd-9 and the studio version is out from what i konw they are 1:1 copies other then the fact that the region has been stripped. If they are dvd-9 discs when the studio version isnt out, then they are likely to be some glorified internet mpeg/avi, sitting @ about 6.5 gigs, but look and sound like crap, however to the avg person watchign on a 4:3 tv wihtout a high end system, they dont care and rave the the quality is great.
     
  25. Ufotone

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    Update


    Got myself a refund from the seller today. :thumbsup:

    Tony :)
     
  26. KevD

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    Good news.
    I thought you were gonna get no joy from him. Maybe he genuinely thought it was an original.
     
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    Hi,
    I have JP Japanese edition, absolutely original not a boot, and it says on the back in one of the few bits in English: Superbit Columbia Tristar Home Entertainment. Also says it's region 2. Paid £52 for it though.
     
  28. Ufotone

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    Yeh I really want all 3 JPs on Superbit, but they are goin for silly money really, thought I'd found a bargain at £37.50, wouldn't really want to pay more than that really.......will just hold out for a HD DVD or blue/ray now.

    Thanks to all for the help, advice and replies

    Tony :)
     

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