Dismiss Notice
Attention AVForums app / Tapatalk users
Sadly GDPR means that, from 25th, we can no longer offer access to AVForums via the branded app or Tapatalk.
Click here for more information.

JS tech RGB to VGA box.

Discussion in 'Plasma TVs Forum' started by Stumpywhu, May 26, 2005.

  1. Stumpywhu

    Stumpywhu
    Active Member

    Joined:
    Nov 30, 2004
    Messages:
    320
    Products Owned:
    0
    Products Wanted:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    18
    Ratings:
    +7
    Hi,
    recently bought the above due to the AWFUL pics on my pw7 coming from sky.
    I 'temporarily' connected the box to the VGA input using a borrowed computer cable from work.
    Now, Im no whatever-o-phile but was rather disappointed, even though the cable may not be reccommended for the job.
    IF I go for a 'reasonably' priced cable will I notice a great improvement (if so any suggestions?) as if not I will stick to the connection Ive got.
    Thanks.
     
  2. phillfyspoon

    phillfyspoon
    Banned

    Joined:
    Oct 21, 2003
    Messages:
    2,149
    Products Owned:
    0
    Products Wanted:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    51
    Location:
    Hampshire
    Ratings:
    +76
    get a very decent rgb scart make sure it i rgb video only and nothing else ie no sound etc. and a decent vga cable. It sure does make a big difference
     
  3. NonPayingMember

    NonPayingMember
    Previously Liam @ Prog AV

    Joined:
    Oct 18, 2002
    Messages:
    8,523
    Products Owned:
    0
    Products Wanted:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    136
    Location:
    Kent
    Ratings:
    +830
    As philffy says, this will improve the kind of noise poor cabling introduces. However you can't polish a turd as they say, Sky is pretty poor to start with so don't expect to be able to remove MPEG artefacting and other issues associated with the low bitrates Sky use.
     
  4. Joe Fernand

    Joe Fernand
    Distinguished Member AVForums Sponsor

    Joined:
    Jan 20, 2002
    Messages:
    26,761
    Products Owned:
    0
    Products Wanted:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    166
    Location:
    The Borders
    Ratings:
    +3,088
    Stumpywhu

    What is the connection your currently using?

    Regards

    Joe
     
  5. Stumpywhu

    Stumpywhu
    Active Member

    Joined:
    Nov 30, 2004
    Messages:
    320
    Products Owned:
    0
    Products Wanted:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    18
    Ratings:
    +7
    Hi Joe, thanks for replying (and the others too).
    At the mo I have a 'decent' scart runnung RGB from Sky into the JS box.
    From there I have a standard (computer) VGA to VGA connecting the box to the plasma.
    All I wanted to know really was if I would get a noticeable difference if I swap the computer cable for a 'decent' VGA lead which is specially made for the job and if anyone could recommend one (or two).
    Thanks.


     
  6. Mep

    Mep
    Well-known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 25, 2004
    Messages:
    9,673
    Products Owned:
    0
    Products Wanted:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    106
    Location:
    Surrey
    Ratings:
    +477
    try the van damme that av sales for about £40
     
  7. Joe Fernand

    Joe Fernand
    Distinguished Member AVForums Sponsor

    Joined:
    Jan 20, 2002
    Messages:
    26,761
    Products Owned:
    0
    Products Wanted:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    166
    Location:
    The Borders
    Ratings:
    +3,088
    Stumpywhu

    Can your current cable be so bad?

    Its unusual for someone to have such a negative reaction to the 'look' of SKY+JS Tech+PW7 - I wonder if there's something else amiss!

    Certainly I can introduce different HD15(VGA) cables into a system as per your kit list and 'see' where some cables cause signal degradation.

    Normally we use/supply a VanDamme Red Series HD15 (VGA) cable with most systems (not the Blue Series - which are OK but not as good).

    We have other more expensive options which can deliver more detail, less noise and a more 3D look.

    Best regards

    Joe
     
  8. absthechatter

    absthechatter
    Standard Member

    Joined:
    Nov 27, 2004
    Messages:
    159
    Products Owned:
    0
    Products Wanted:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    18
    Ratings:
    +1
    I'll have to second that, Joe's Silver Sepent cable is well worth the money. But even with a normal computer cable I would not expect you to be disappointed. I think there is something else wrong there.
    Was you using SKY on a CRT set before,and if so what was the picture quality like? Do you have any input boards so to can try another connection just to see if there is some fault in your current connection method?

    Abs
     
  9. Stumpywhu

    Stumpywhu
    Active Member

    Joined:
    Nov 30, 2004
    Messages:
    320
    Products Owned:
    0
    Products Wanted:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    18
    Ratings:
    +7
    Thanks everyone.
    My point was that while as everyone knows, the Sky output is poor, I was (possibly over) expecting a great improvemement when adding the JS box.
    It IS better but not the 'WOW - money well spent' I was hoping for.
    Can anyone recommend a 'good' VGA cable for around 30 to maybe 40 pounds?
    (if this isnt going to be up to the job and spending more is advisable please let me know).
    Thanks again everyone.
     
  10. Mep

    Mep
    Well-known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 25, 2004
    Messages:
    9,673
    Products Owned:
    0
    Products Wanted:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    106
    Location:
    Surrey
    Ratings:
    +477
    apart from the van damme already recommended above?
     
  11. Stumpywhu

    Stumpywhu
    Active Member

    Joined:
    Nov 30, 2004
    Messages:
    320
    Products Owned:
    0
    Products Wanted:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    18
    Ratings:
    +7
    Thanks but have dealt with AV sales.
    (will leave it at that).
    Any idea how much the 'Silver Serpent' will be?






    QUOTE=mep]apart from the van damme already recommended above?[/QUOTE]
     
  12. Mep

    Mep
    Well-known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 25, 2004
    Messages:
    9,673
    Products Owned:
    0
    Products Wanted:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    106
    Location:
    Surrey
    Ratings:
    +477
    oh yes i think i remember your thread on that...well you can get it elsewhere (Joe for example) and it is a very good cable
     
  13. absthechatter

    absthechatter
    Standard Member

    Joined:
    Nov 27, 2004
    Messages:
    159
    Products Owned:
    0
    Products Wanted:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    18
    Ratings:
    +1
    [/QUOTE]

    Depends on length you need. But someone in this very thread sells them and you should be able to link to their site from their signature.

    Abs
     
  14. Stumpywhu

    Stumpywhu
    Active Member

    Joined:
    Nov 30, 2004
    Messages:
    320
    Products Owned:
    0
    Products Wanted:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    18
    Ratings:
    +7
    Thanks very much all.
    Will mail Joe about the Silver Serpent privately.
     
  15. Educated Guess

    Educated Guess
    Active Member

    Joined:
    Dec 8, 2004
    Messages:
    1,579
    Products Owned:
    0
    Products Wanted:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    63
    Ratings:
    +128
    And i thought it was just me.
    I got the JS RGB to VGA from a member on this forum purely on the great recommendations it gets. I have a £50.00 scart lead (no sound) and a decent VGA cable. The Panels all calibrated perfectly. Was I blown away...No. And I only had my 50 inch Panasonic connected by composite before!!
    Like you Stumpy, i was expecting....well I don't know what, a miracle maybe.
    The improvement was noticable but not by much. Glad I done it though just for peace of mind. Would a expensive VGA lead improve things. IMHO no, but I'm sure I'm in the minority with that one.
     
  16. Joe Fernand

    Joe Fernand
    Distinguished Member AVForums Sponsor

    Joined:
    Jan 20, 2002
    Messages:
    26,761
    Products Owned:
    0
    Products Wanted:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    166
    Location:
    The Borders
    Ratings:
    +3,088
    Hello John Martucci

    The JS Technology converters are designed to ensure you have the best connectivity between your Source and Display - the Source plus the Displays on-board video processing has the biggest affect on what you see on screen; the converter cant 'improve' on the source signal.

    I find for many folk who don't get an immediate 'wow' factor with any upgrade a good test is to live with the upgrade for a day or two and then go back to what came before the upgrade.

    I have to say with a PHD50 you really ought to consider an External Video processor from the likes of Lumagen or DVDO if you want a 'wow' upgrade!

    The best results we see/deliver with your Display is when we use an external processor to up sample and pre process the input video signal to pixel match or at least over sample to 720p.

    Best regards

    Joe

    PS Its not an 'expensive' VGA cable you want its a well designed and constructed VGA cable that will make a difference :)
     
  17. Mep

    Mep
    Well-known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 25, 2004
    Messages:
    9,673
    Products Owned:
    0
    Products Wanted:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    106
    Location:
    Surrey
    Ratings:
    +477
    i have to say that the difference was very noticeable when i got mine....to the the extent that mrs mep noticed too!
     
  18. Educated Guess

    Educated Guess
    Active Member

    Joined:
    Dec 8, 2004
    Messages:
    1,579
    Products Owned:
    0
    Products Wanted:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    63
    Ratings:
    +128
    The wife and the 2 kids were waiting for my upgrade when I told them I was getting the JS. Being a complete technophile, it's rubbed off on the family and they were genuinely keen to see the results (Ok maybe I sold it to them a little!).
    Hooked it all up and the look of indifference was clear. Yes they all egreed that the menu on sky was sharp and clear, but the picture was nominally better at best.
    'And how much did that cost you the wife says'. £12.00 I lied.
    'Oh well for that price it's worth a go!' Bless her. She doesn't even know what the scart lead cost let alone the JS.

    Joe Fernand
    Mr Fernand we can convince ourselves that the money we spend on our addiction is exponetial to the results we get, but is it? Thats purly subjective of course. I always bought the best cables and accessories, just for peace of mind. But that old diminishing returns adage seems to set in even quicker with newer equipment. To me expensive should equate to well desighned and construted, although I know that is not always the case.
     
  19. Mep

    Mep
    Well-known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 25, 2004
    Messages:
    9,673
    Products Owned:
    0
    Products Wanted:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    106
    Location:
    Surrey
    Ratings:
    +477
    I genuinely found colour better and more realistic and the overall pq just to be so much better.
    It's a good job your wife doesn't read the forums :)
     

Share This Page

Loading...
  1. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register.
    By continuing to use this site, you are consenting to our use of cookies.
    Dismiss Notice