Discussion in 'Blu-ray & DVD Players & Recorders' started by spinaltap, Oct 23, 2018.
BBC News reports that John Lewis are to cease selling DVD players once existing stocks are depleted.
about time. hope this is the first step towards making 4k discs a lot more affordable..
Unlikely as it's just a reflection of the move to streaming rather than discs.
"John Lewis will stop stocking DVD players due to the rise of streaming services such as Netflix and Hulu"
They will still be selling blu-ray players though, it's just that the margins on dvd players is very low for JL especially as supermarkets are selling them for £20
and it wont be long before blu ray players will be dropped next !
I haven't worked for John Lewis in over 3 years and even then we didn't sell DVD Players, was all Bluray
I think shift to streaming is a factor that affects all disc formats, not just DVDs. However, unlike BD or UHD, DVD can't compete against the streaming content at all which is now mostly at least in HD quality. BD at least offers superior sound whilst UHD offers better both picture and sound to most of current streaming content.
Once DVD is completely dropped, BD will probably take it's place at the bottom of the pecking order and hopefully will pull 4k discs to a cheaper category. Same as happened with VHS>DVD>BD. Just a natural evolution really.
But I agree that streaming is a game changer and maybe in the future we won't have any physical media at all..
Worth noting that door knocker sales are down by 9%, but sales of G-strings are up 72%. Make of this what you will.
Ah, I thought I smelled BS when the BBC news reported this morning that 70" screens have become 'the norm' these days.
JL customer service for consumer electronics is shockingly bad these days so I don't think too many enthusiasts will notice, or even care, about them ceasing the sale of DVD players... I didn't even know they were still being made
I don’t think you can read anything into that other than there is little point in dedicated DVD players.
But that says nothing about the popularity of the media - it is still massively outselling both BD and 4k disks. I imagine that most of the people who buy and watch DVDs already have players and those that need a new one may just as well buy a BD player.
First thing I thought is why are they holding the disc upside down on the headline picture.
Agree on this. UHD players are not much more now.
Its only a matter of time before disc ownership will be a thing of the past .
Streaming is the the New King as such and with speed downloads and 5G
It will slowly become the norm .
How times change .
Depends. Huge areas of the planet don't have fast enough broadband. It's why games consoles still have disk drives.
Id imagine poss in the future everything will tethered to mobile phones
With 5G and later 6G .
Prob wont req Broadband ?
HD movies will be a few minutes to download .
I use my mobile as my Broadband
UHD movies are not made available to download and can only be accessed via streaming.
Streaming cannot currently replicate the same video or audio quality associated with disc based media so if it were to suddenly replace disc based media then we'd all be forced to watch content distributed via a medium that results in inferior results. There's also the fact that you'll never actually own it either, as has proved to be the case with Apple.
Do you really want streaming rather than disc based or physical media?
The fact is that you don't need broadband or even an internet connection to be able to watch a DVD, Blu-ray or UHD disc.
DVD ? I stopped buying them in 2007 !
Sales are healthy apparently, it's just that few brand-name stores can compete with sub-£50 dvd players in supermarkets & other stores.
As others have said, blu-ray (and UHD) offers vastly superior sound (compared to the compressed audio on streaming services, and video that does not suffer from compression artifacts. And with the way that streaming services are going (fragmentation across film studios) people might soon cotton on to the idea that their "cheap" £8/£11 monthly charge will have to be duplicated across more and more streaming services in order to be able to access films from all studios.
Never a truer word spoken.
Incorrect you can if you wish aquire a uhd download if you so wish
And many do .
And which studios exactly are facilitating this? UHD titles are not available for purchase and download. The studios do not want you to have access to the files due to concerns they have about those files being duplicated and distributed illegally. They don't want you to rip this content from discs, let alone wanting to rip it for you.
Not the legal copies downloads that many download .
Its the Kodi boxes etc that have prob made people stop purchasing dvd and blues etc
Which is slowly coming to an end as such .
Sadly more and more people have some type of streaming / media play back box and some have in all the rooms .
Dvd and slowly blu ray etc will end regardless of the Quality and sound
People want it now regardless of pic or sound format .
Streamed or ilegal copies on a tiny phone or pad or flicked on to a bigger screen .
Us home cinema fans are a small minority .
Times are changing
Again, where are people legally downloading UHD films from? You stated that I was incorrect so where are people obtaining UHD downloads?
There'll be physical media as long as the studios gain higher profit margins from it. How much profit do you think they make from Apple's iTune store each time a film is sold? I think they earn considerable more per disc sold than they do each copy streamed?
VHS wasn't discontinued as such, Sanyo simply had to cease the manufacture of players due the difficulties involved in obtaining all the components required. Sanyo were the last manufacturer to continue making VHS players and were still selling them in relatively high numbers just 2 years ago. VHS lasted 40 years.
Not the legal copies of uhd Downloads and from the internet .
More and more are getting the Apple tv 4k [ Dolby Vision ] box as it try to start to rival Netflix ......
Now So called Disney Flix ? will be a fighting force for the next big streaming service who knows .
But theres mega money in it .
Disc format for the masses is fading ........
People want a movie they want it now and dont want even to get up and put a disc in a player even .
and yes they actually wont own the movie even if they pay for it .
So as I said, you don't get to download the UHD content and never actually own it. Also note that if physical media dissappears then neither will you get the opportunity to download pirated UHD films ripped from discs. You shouldn't be doing this anyway!
Many people are not interested in the content its just the Movie they want to see .
Some Av forum / Movie buffs maybe different ?
Doubtful, streaming is about to go through an expensive disruption with the studios attempting to break the Netflix dominance. It's going to get as expensive as Sky/Virgin and that's where they'll be competing.
Physical media isn't going anywhere for a while, hell I can still buy CDs.
Here we go again... Disc is dead. Really? So right now you can stream every film available on disc? Nope. You can't even rent every film available to buy digitally. It's a mess. Also bear in mind the recent tale of that guy that bought a film through Apple and then lost it when the studios deal with Apple expired.
The only reason digital gets first dibs on new film releases is to try and persuade consumers to go digital. If sales were that good, digital would be released on the same day as physical. It isn't because studios know it would fail. As long as physical sells, it will be available. Simple as that.
4k Streaming versus 4k discs? Is there any difference as I have 4k Apple. Personally I like owning CDs as against downloads and likewise favourite films I would prefer on Blu-Ray rather than streaming. Still haven’t jumped into Prime or Netflix and stuck with Freesat and Freeview in a 4k Panasonic 50”
Yes there is a difference and it isn't the same video or audio. The streaming variant is of a lesser bitrate and doesn't utilise HD quality audio. Neither will you ever own the content or have it in your possession if talking about 4K and UHD streamed films.
I use both Prime and Netflix, but still buy films on disc. The streaming services are not replacements for disc based media, just a means by which to access another form of entertainment. The streaming services are more a threat to TV broadcasters that they are to physical media and films. Apple has some benefits, one of which is the price you pay per film, but you are not getting the same quality as you'd get via disc and you will not be able to download the 4K UHD variants of the content you buy.
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