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It does, and this sub-forum, in which the first four threads currently have it in their headers.
 
logiciel m8 this freesat forum is pretty awesome there's no need to moderate or question the posts, noticed a good amount of new members joining just because of all these new threads.

We all know your not happy with the thread topics, this freesat forum would be dead without the outstanding work from Raydon.
 
also notice the thread view's 20k just on raydon's alone, add up the previous that's well on the way for 50k then compare that to other threads that's how appreciated the guys is on this forum.
 
We used to play a game called 'Bundle!' at school.... oh wait... :rotfl:

Bundle = A collection of things, or a quantity of material, tied or wrapped up together.

So in this context a collection of software applications 'wrapped' up in a package for easy installation onto the Humax Foxsat HDR.

Logi - Treat yourself to a Foxsat HDR and play with it, you'll like it! ;)
 
It does, and this sub-forum, in which the first four threads currently have it in their headers.
Sorry, but I still don't understand your reason for starting this thread. Wouldn't it would be better to just say what you mean, instead of making obscure references? For the benefit of everyone in the forum can you please explain exactly what point are you trying to make here ?

Edit:Thread name has been belatedly changed from "Bundle" to Jargon in case anyone reading this wonders why I asked for clarification.
 
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You don't understand a simple question, or know the difference between asking one and making a point?
I wasn't making any point, I was asking a simple question, with the intention of obtaining information that might be interesting, to me, to Wikipedia, and to newcomers to the forum.
Those newcomers might be completely baffled as I was by such a specialist use of the word, and to know what it meant might well attract yet more followers to threads that use it, that would be incomprehensible at first sight.
That would be to their advantage, and to yours, so there's nothing for you to complain about - quite the reverse.
As for obscure references, there weren't any references at all, either that or crystal clear.
kevkbuk knew a simple question when he saw one, and he answered it.
Now I know the answer, "a collection of software applications 'wrapped' up in a package".
Why that should be a bundle rather than the simple collection or package that it already is I don't know, but fine, that's the answer.
Wikipedia didn't know, so now someone can go and enter it.
mrmarky - who said anything about raydon not being appreciated?
I don't understand anything he writes, but that doesn't lessen my appreciation of other people's appreciation of it.
I did use to understand all that kind of thing, on real computers, but I've grown out of it, or grown tired of it. :D
Maybe I will take that advice, and return to it in its new form.
 
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You don't understand a simple question, or know the difference between asking one and making a point?
I wasn't making any point, I was asking a simple question, with the intention of obtaining information that might be interesting, to me, to Wiki, and to newcomers to the forum.
Those newcomers might be completely baffled as I was by such a specialist use of the word, and to know what it meant might well attract yet more followers to threads that use it, that would be incomprehensible at first sight.
That would be to their advantage, and to yours, so there's nothing for you to complain about - quite the reverse.
As for obscure references, there weren't any references at all, either that or crystal clear.
kevkbuk knew a simple question when he saw one, and he answered it.
Now I know the answer, "a collection of software applications 'wrapped' up in a package".
Why that should be a bundle rather than the simple collection or package that it already is I don't know, but fine, that's the answer.
Wiki didn't know, so now someone can go and enter it.
mrmarky - who said anything about raydon not being appreciated?
I don't understand anything he writes, but that doesn't lessen my appreciation of other people's appreciation of it.
I did use to understand all that kind of thing, on real computers, but I've grown out of it, or grown tired of it. :D
Maybe I will take that advice, and return to it in its new form.
Logiciel, I don't think you'll ever convince anyone that your motivation was purely for the purpose of obtaining information that might be interesting to others. Most will agree that in this instance you have deliberately misunderstood the meaning of a simple word in order to create some sort of controversy. The popularity of the threads pertaining to Foxsat HDR Media & File Server Bundle speak for themselves. You know as well as I do that there was never any need to clarify the meaning of the word 'Bundle', or the use of it in any context. Any child in primary school could tell you what it means. This forum is not about splitting hairs, it's about genuinely informing users about developments in Freesat technology, whether it be hardware or software, and providing help and guidance as required, in the use that technology. I believe that my contributions speak for themselves. If you don't understand that technology that's fine, but at least tolerate those that do. If you can't do that then you should seriously consider whether you should be moderating this forum at all. Creating controversy is not the way to go. Your arguments in the defense of your position remain unconvincing. However, I will leave it to others to be the judge on this. I look forward to hearing their comments.
 
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kevkbuk knew a simple question when he saw one, and he answered it.
Wiki didn't know, so now someone can go and enter it.

He guessed what you meant... new members will find your post even more baffling than the 'media bundle' discussion. :D I did have to read it a few times before replying...

Your use of the word wiki did not help. A wiki is a kind of website that allows it's users to add and edit content. The site you referred to, Wikipedia, is probably the most well known example of such a site. It's confusing if Wiki is used for shorthand for Wikipedia.
 
I did NOT know what the word means in this context.
As always when in search of information I went to Wikipedia to find out.
Wikipedia did not know.
I asked the forum what it means, and invited them to pass on their knowledge to Wikipedia.
kevkbuk told me, and future posters, what it means - a collection, or package, of software applications.
That's it - no question of intolerance, or of controversy.
The threads are obviously of great interest and value, and I'm sure they will continue to attract new posters.
 
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As always when in search of information I went to Wikipedia to find out.
Wikipedia did not know.

Here's a tip for you Logi, if your unsure of the definition of a word go to Google and type in 'define:word' without the quotes and click the search button, then click the More>> link on the first result. This will give you lots of info from several different sources.
 
As the "forum is not about splitting hairs" I suppose I should have been satisfied to leave my word "Wiki" as implying Wikipedia because "there was never any need to clarify" it but I have edited in the correction.
My one-line post now reads:
"Will someone give their definition of it <the word Bundle> in this context <of the forum topic, Freesat>, and then get the definition into Wikipedia?"
Wikipedia has a list of contextual meanings of the word, none of then covering Freesat or any other satellite or computer topics.
It does not - yet - know this usage, and I did NOT know it, yet "Any child in primary school could tell you what it means".
"If you don't understand that technology that's fine, but at least tolerate those that do".
I not only tolerate it, I admire it, and want to encourage it - in this case by making it clear, to myself and to potential beneficiaries, what its terminology means.
One of the factors that put people off technology is the jargon - necessary though that may be. Any step in helping to remove such a factor ought to be welcome, not least by the experts.
How did a one-line question "create controversy"?

Kevkbuk - How did its sixteen words give you cause to have to "guess their meaning"? Which parts of my previous post will baffle new posters?
I don't see how the word 'bundle' could ever be considered jargon. This particular example you have singled out for your attention is very basic English. As I already stated, ask any child what a bundle is and I'm certain they will be able to tell you. Whether it be a bundle of sticks, a bundle of hay, or a bundle of vegetables. It all means the same thing - a collection of something or other. However, just to clarify things beyond any possible doubt, I would draw your attention to the definition of 'bundle' as already contained in the Wikipedia reference here under the heading of Software.

Quote:
Bundled software, commonly known as software bundles or bundleware, is the practice of including several related games or other software into a single package.

As far as I can see, the only thing that singles this word out, is that it is in the titles of the most popular threads in this forum. These have had many thousands of hits and strangely enough, until now no one has ever sought to question that meaning. If you are genuinely looking to remove the use of jargon in the forum may I respectfully suggest you find a better example to hang your hat on.
 
isnt bundle that bear on rainbow :laugh:

That was Bungle! :laugh:

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The OP is even more confusing with the new subject line...
 
If bungle and his family had a group hug would that be a bundle of bungles?
 

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