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Jamo THX ultra 2 sub

Discussion in 'Subwoofers' started by Chewbacca, Oct 20, 2004.

  1. Chewbacca

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    Hello Guys

    I took a trip up north yesterday to buy Myself a Pioneer vsa ax 10ai-s anyway I was talking to a couple of very helpful guys at sevenoaks sound and vision Newcastle which is where i purchased the amp from and I stumbled across a Jamo sub which is THX ULTRA 2 spec I sat down and listened to a piece of LOTR and I was well impressed have any of You guys out there had any dealings with this sub because I am seriously thinking of buying two of em.
     
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    I have heard the subs in the same demo room you did, they are very good. I believe you need two of them to achieve Ultra 2 spec, i could be wrong there though. I have thought about these subs as an addition to my system.
     
  3. Chewbacca

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    THX 1138

    Thanks for the advice mate the wife has told Me that this is the last upgrade for a long time to come so I want to get it right I have heard so many good reports about SVS but after hearing these's sub's I am starting to think diffrent.
     
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    I haven't heard one but there are certain people who swear blind that THX Ultra 2 certification is the be all and end all to subwoofery ( I am not one of them incidentally). If this is the case a pair of these subs at about £1,600 is a very cheap introduction to Ultra 2 standards
     
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    i have only ever heard just one of these; i liked it but two would be much better! the downside to them is they are pig ugly and enormous.
    its good to see a thread about a sub other than svs for a change :clap:
    (puts on fireproof suit) :devil:
     
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    :)

    I think the reason SVS subs are so popular, is because they offer so much for so little. When the exchange rate turns against us, I suspect views may change, as the HUGE value for money factor goes away.

    I LOVE my SVS PC Ultra, but I equally love any other sub that is good, and these Jamos sound like they are great :D
     
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    I have the smaller Jamo D6 THX Ultra sub and it is a nice clean sounding subwoofer, the D7 goes deeper.

    If you download the D7 manual it has one of Jamo's little pictograms that does indicate two subs are need for Ultra2. Though FWIW Ultra and Ultra2 are for reference levels in a 3000 cu ft room or larger so you may not need 2 of them.
     
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    Thanks for the advice guys If I where to purchase one of these subs in the future how easy are there to set up. :)
     
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    Guys,

    I was with Chewey when he bought his amp yesterday - I like to drool over these things and I too heard the Jamo's and was impressed. It was interesting to hear from the guy in the shop whos name I forget, how his opinion of the SVS was that it was a much overated sub, and that it was not all that it was cracked up to be - makes you think when a guy who does know his stuff (he's THX certified - and has a badge to prove it :thumbsup: ) says something like that.

    On the subject of the Jamo, does anyone have a retail price on them, how old are they and are they sold seperartley or are they part of a speaker package?

    As for Chewey and his bottomless credit card, I have just one suggestion to say to you, buy three and then I can have one :lease: , See you at 8

    Dave 911
     
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    Phil have you not yet upgraded already or are you still looking?

    John :)
     
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    It's really no different to listening to a Ford dealer running down Vauxhall as only a naive person would expect a dealer to recommend something that he won't make a profit on.

    I would strongly suggest before parting with your hard earned money on any sub that you try and find an SVS at about the same price and listen to it yourself and make your own mind up as we can't all be wrong on this forum.

    For the price of a pair of Jamo subs and all of the attendant problems of setting them up to work well as a pair you could buy yourself a reference quality SVS PB-12 Ultra reviewed here where they used phrases like
     
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    Chewbacca, maybe not on this page.... but when you`re ready give us your opinion on AX10ais as recently got same amp myself and would like to know what you think...
     
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    Those who believe the rubbish that most dealer's staff have to say should be given a crash course in fairy tales. :devil:

    Mind you, It can be even worse.
    There are those that badmouth the stuff they actually sell!
    Just to move the customer further up-market! :mad:

    My usual ploy is to demand to know which particular model they don't like of the competing make. Red faces all round. :blush:

    Full marks to my nearest AV dealer. They freely admitted they didn't know anything about SVS. I suppose I should have asked: "Why not?" :D

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    Still looking at the moment.

    As for sales patter from the dealer concerned, i have never had that type of experience from Craig and Nev at Sevenoaks Newcastle, they usually explain the plus sides of most products, even if they don't stock them. I am not aware of any of the guys there having experience of an SVS either, but they did get the lowdown on my unhappy experience with a 20-39+ which ended up being mostly the rooms fault and not exclusively the SVS.
     
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    But they are 15" servo controlled units with boundary gain added Ian. I believe retail is nearer £2k the pair.
     
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    I have to agree with THX 1138 on this matter these two people who have been mentioned at Sevenoaks where very helpful indeed and I truly felt that they where not out to make a quick buck there comments where not biased at all they also said that Velodyne where cracking subs and I am nearly sure that they do not sell them
     
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    I will let You know Glen when the decorator is finished in our front room and I can set My amp up
     
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    I may be a little wet behind the ears regarding subwoofers but surely if a product be it a amp or speaker package but in this instance a Jamo subwoofer has a badge saying that its THX ultra 2 spec surely this must be the dogs b*******
     
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    There is alot of equipment out there that would probably meet the THX Ultra 2 spec but you know for sure you are getting a high quality piece of kit when it does have the badge :cool:

    John :)
     
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    I've seen the D7 online at £800 each. Jamo are very down on online sales and discounting, the place I got my D6 pack from had it's supply pulled due to complaints from other dealers. So it's talk to the dealer and see what you can get.
     
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    Thanx Matt, I know what Chewy is going to have to fork out and that looks like a good deal that he would get :smashin:

    As for the SVS debate, I agree with Chewey, I have been in numerous av shops and yes I will agree that some guys are in it for the money, however these guys and S&V were in my opinion, quite genuine - yes I know they showed us the Jamo's because they knew Chewey was in the market for a decent sub, they also knew that he did not want to go OTT, but having just bought probably the best integrated amp on the market, I feel that they were showing him something which might fit his budget and have the desired sound he required.

    Lets not all be sinical about the world out there - their are some genuine guys who only want to make their customers happy, I feel that S&V - Newcastle were spot on and I for one will go back there again :p !

    Trust me - I'm an alien :devil:
     
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    dave911, totally agree with you. not all dealers in av shops are out to make money on evertyhing, one of the places i go actually told me i was better off buying something he didn't sell and even went as far as telling me which dealer i could go to. i'm not saying that svs subs aren't good, i have never heard (or felt) one in action - just was pointing out (in a light hearted way) that the sub forum seems to consist of mostly svs threads. anyway, im off to america next week and who knows i may come back with a new sub(!)
     
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    Well I've been accused of SVS bias in the past. It's simply not true. Let's straighten things out a bit. :D

    First, I was generalising (as you do) about the staff at larger AV stores wanting to shift product. Not the established one and two man specialised dealers who's reputation keeps them afloat.

    Though my comment about badmouthing products they sell themselves was made of a high-end dealer. Who's high street shop window was tastefully decorated with the very products he thought so little of. He then took me upstairs to listen to a one source all-Linn £17k stereo system. The acoustics of his demo room were as crap as his honesty in selling the cheaper products on the ground floor. :rolleyes:

    There's no need to get your knickers in a twist about shop staff. No need to get as cynical as me either. :rolleyes:

    Just do your own homework before you go shopping for kit. There's never been a better time to find about about products before you buy. Once you've exhausted the internet your nearest forum is only a keyboard away. :)

    Most purchases that fail to satisfy are made in a hurry or on the spur of a moment. Know what you want before you leave the house.

    Be certain that if you change your mind at the dealers it isn't just because the dealer wants you to buy something else. It's so tempting to buy the next model up from the five-star-rated, raved-about product. It doesn't always hold true that the more expensive model is better in any way that matters. It may be much older or have irritating faults or about to be discontinued. :blush:

    Ask yourself why SVS is so popular and has such popular public following on the forums. It's not really because they are actually cheap. Well is it? Or everbody would have at least the base model.

    Surely it's simply because they do what it says on the can. :beer:

    AND they are cheaper in comparison with anything else that tries to compete at their level. The real "hidden" charge (apart from air-freight and VAT) is a larger enclosure than most of it's competitors. It's why they work!

    But learning about the size of SVS enclosures is all part of the homework when buying new kit. Whether you can sneak a sub designed for larger American rooms past the WAF committee is up to you. Just don't blind yourself to these "small" details when thinking about purchasing any product. Like needing a BFD because your living room was never designed for such a powerful subwoofer in the first place! :blush:

    I went so far as to stack some big paint cans on top of each other to judge the size of an SVS cylinder in my 30 foot long listening room. There's nothing to stop you doing the same (in your own room). Or make a cardboard box mock-up of any sub you have in mind. Be completely honest with yourself and your better half. :blush:

    Sit on your sofa with your nearest and dearest and ask yourselves: "Do I really want this damn great thing in my lounge? Try and remember: It's only a hobby! Which your partner may not share with quite the same enthusiasm. :blush:

    Get yourselves a B&W ASW675 or similar quality small box if you can both see the commonsense of taking that route. Your windows will still bulge and your neighbours will still hate you just as much! :devil:

    It's a bit late to start complaining when the SVS mobile crane crew are standing on the doorstep and they want paying. :devil:

    Regards
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    Thats a very interesting statement. There are 100's of 1000's of people in the UK that are into Home Cinema, most of which have never heard of avforums, let alone SVS (and others ofcourse). There might be a good lot here (forgot what the last count was) on the SVS bandwagon, but it hardly makes it easy for the common man to ever get to hear an own an SVS.

    Furthermore, you have to be careful going to anyones house (better to do it than not ofcourse), regardless of product, but it will be obvious that the person will be excited about their product, much more beyond a saleman who has a range to sell with no particular preference (cash incentives aside) so you have to always remain objective when getting all the excitment of 'best sub I have ever heard' 'its great innit' 'you can't fault it can you' and all that.

    It is useful that other manufacturers do have retail outlets in the UK where you can hear a product, but that usually means wages for others in the chain. SVS will never be so well known on the high street because of their direct selling techniques. That doesn't mean they don't do damn fine products that deserve respect, they do, but I am just emphasising the point.
     
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    I agree with everything you say. :)

    But even if the sub of your dreams sounds like god's right hand is at work on the Darla scene in your neighbour's house. It doesnt mean it will do anything useful in your own room. A sub really has to be heard in your own room before you can judge whether it's for you. There lies the problem. Catch 22 and all that. I really can't see what difference hearing a sub in a demo room has to do with success or failure when you finally get it home. Even with a BFD under the other arm! :blush:

    Nimby
     
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    This topic is going off at a tangent. My original comment was that it should be expected that AV dealers will rubbish products that they don't sell as they earn a living by selling their own products and not by praising others. In this instance the comment was made as follows :-

    and this was followed up with :-

    It would seem that a customer / friend relaying his (much publicized) poor experience not only with his SVS but with other downfiring subs in his room is turned into "it was a much overated sub, and not all that it was cracked up to be"

    With the growth of the forum, dealers have to be very careful what they say as "Harold Corbet" and his inflammable Servo 15's found out to his cost :D
     
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    beware they didn't overcharge you - just that I rang them for a price of a Kef Q6c and gthey quoted 200 quid - it's supposed to cost 149.99... :rolleyes:
     
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    I was unaware that they are actually Kef dealers, infact i am sure they are not. You sure you didn't phone Global who are Kef dealers.
     
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    Hi, I do apologise about that - you are correct - I've just rang them and they don't sell them, I also rang Global and they quoted 139 - which is great!!

    not sure who I rang the other week then, but a result anyway :thumbsup:
     
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    I saw the KEF 207s in Global the other week, criminal that a pair of £7000+ speakers on display both had crushed tweeters :eek:
     

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