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I've had enough of Sky

Discussion in 'TV Show Forum' started by whistlingDogg, Oct 29, 2002.

  1. whistlingDogg

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    That's it, after 4 years of sky digital, I've had enough. I'm not prepared to pay £38 a month for the crap that sky churn out. I can't remember the last time I watched a sky movies film and I've never heard of the straight-to-tv movies on movies max. Hundreds of shopping channels, no widescreen, too many adverts etc. I'm goign to cancel and just receive the fta/ftv channels and possibly pay for film4...
     
  2. Azrikam

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    If you're going to cancel, do us subscribers a favor and say it was because of:
    A) Not enough widescreen broadcasts
    B) Too much onscreen graphics
    :D 'Preciate it.

    I agree that the movie channels are a huge waste. I downgraded a while back and still haven't seen a single movie that I wished I could watch on Sky movies. I had originally intended on scrapping my sub entirely, but I think it's still worth £16 a month for E4, BBC Choice, and a few others.
     
  3. andyk

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    BBC Choice is free.

    I have the FTA card in my Sky box and find that is enough for me. I used to pay the £16 sub but found that all that we were actually watching were the free channels and Nick Jr. Since CBeebies and Boomerang have arrived though Nick Jr isn't missed at all.
     
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    Oops. Well, there's got to be something worthwhile in this package. Oh, the History/Discovery channels are very good, as well as CNX/Cartoon Network.

    Honestly, there is very little in the family pack that isn't FTA. But, for me, it's enough to warrant a subscription.
     
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    Aren't you guys interested in sport? (and I don't just mean football:rolleyes: ). How about Discovery Channel and National Geographic, etc too? - Azikram excluded.

    Surely you see there is more to SKY than crappy movies?
     
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    Cancelled my sky package last October, and never looked back since:D


    Kept my Panny box and I'm happy with the free to view channels. I do miss the documentary chanels but I dont miss the advert break 4 mins into the program:mad:

    But must insist that when you resign your subscription and do for a just cause such as:

    Screen graphics
    advertisment break lengths
    Non widescreen formats....

    (oh yes and a I forgot to mention, I bet they'll offer you a lower rate to keep your custom;) )
     
  7. michaelm

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    They are putting their prices up by £2.50 per package from Jan 1st - so your £16.00 package will now cost £18.50. A massive 16% increase.

    Sky explain this by saying their costs have risen and they are trying to keep this down to a minimum cost to subscribers.
    More than likely it's to do with their crappy pay interactive services that few people actually use and their overpriced pay-per-view services that few people actually use. If they dumped all this sh*te their service would be more cost effective but I bet they'd still hike their prices up.

    The thing is, they're allowed to get away with it. They have a monopoly on pay tv services and the DTI have given them carte blanche for years to charge what they want.
     
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    The thing that REALLY wound me up was the voice announcers talking over the end credits! Film Four do that too. Very annoying!!!
     
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    The truth is that they know the launch of Freeview will see a percentage of their lower-rate package subscribers cancel their subscriptions and switch provider.

    The increase equates to the losses Sky guesstimate that they'll lose in this manner.

    Put simply, the Sky customers that stay loyal will cover the losses of the ones that don't.
     
  10. Azrikam

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    Yeah, once again Sky heaps the biggest piles onto their loyal subscribers.

    New subscriber? Here's a bunch of free stuff. Loyal subscriber for years? Shut up and make sure your box is connected to a phone line, cash cow. :devil:

    Right now, the fee is warranted because a good portion of what I watch wouldn't be available on the free channels. But, as the price goes up and the competition gets better, it's only a matter of time before I cancel my sub.
     
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    And what is the rate of inflation??? About 3 at most and if this is a raise over 2 years 6% that 2.5 times above inflation.
     
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    I'm thinking of cancelling my Sky subscription. Does anyone know where I can get hold of a list of channels that I can still receive ?

    Also, when I cancel my subscription, do I still need my Viewing Card ? - I tried taking it out last night and everything went off !!
     
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    You need to get a new viewing card. There is a phone number that you can ring. Look on the bbc.co.uk under their digital viewing section.

    There is probably a list of channels there too. In summary though it is
    BBC 1
    BBC2
    BBC Choice
    CBBC
    CBeebies
    BBC4
    BBC News 24
    ITV (not ITV 2 or Sport)
    CH4 (not E4)
    CH5
    Sky News
    various other news channels (Bloomberg etc.)
    All the shopping channels
    Boomerang (but none of the other cartoon channels)
    various God channnels
    various Radio stations
    Porn freeviews (and you can still subscribe if you wish)
    a couple of other bits and pieces here and there
     
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    Thanks for that.

    Just wondering though. Looking at the freeview website (www.freeview.co.uk) it lists ITV2 and Sky Sports News as channels you can receive. Is that via a different STB ?
     
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    I think I'm going to cancel the movies. Some are ok to watch again, but those I haven't seen, yet, I want to watch for the first time on my big screen in Dolby Digital bloody loud.
    Not interested in Sport. The discovery and history channels are of big interest to me, though. I like most things to do with WWII like battlefield and the biographies are good.
     
  16. kevenh

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    Woah! That FTA channel list is a little out of date!

    What You Get For Free


    The movie stuff is not part of the current list. 'They' couldn't agree on £££'s. They are at least talking again.

    The same STB does all the channels.
     
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    kevenh,

    So this list of channels. Can I receive these if I cancel my Sky subscription and then get one of these Free to View cards from the BBC (for instance). Or do I need to get a Freeview box and receive via aerial ??

    Cheers,
    Simon.
     
  18. whistlingDogg

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    i might be wrong but if you cancel your sky subscription you keep the card and it allows you to receive the ftv/fta channels
     
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    Blimey, I should've started at the begining.
    Sorry, there are at least two FTA lists.

    My "What You Get For Free" link earlier is just for Freeview DTT

    (Sorry AndyK - this looks like your list! :blush: ) For Sky Digital the list is: -

    Non-subscription channels

    BBC1
    BBC2
    BBC Choice
    BBC News 24
    BBC Parliament
    BBC Four
    CBBC
    Cbeebies
    ITV1
    CNN
    Channel 4 plus S4C and S4C2
    Channel 5
    BBC (Radio 1-3, 4FM and LW, 5 Live, 5 Live Sports Extra, World Service, Radio Scotland, Radio Wales, Radio Ulster, Asian Network
    Classic FM
    Classic Gold
    The Mix
    Planet Rock
    Core
    Virgin Radio
    Capital Gold
    Xfm
    Youthfm.com
    Heart FM
    WRN Euro Max


    Sky News and QVC are available without a viewing card
     
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    I cancelled all the movie channels about 6 months ago. All the films I want to see I either see at the cinema or buy on DVD, for the reasons Spectre touched on.

    Any of the occasional 'of interest' type things that sometimes came on Moviemax or FilmFour I now just rent on DVD.

    I realised I was paying £16 a month to be able to look at the EPG and say 'Oh, that's on tonight is it' but never actually watched any of them.
     
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    I know. I was constantly looking through the movies saying, "that's a good flick", and "I wouldn't mind seeing that one again." But, truth be told, I never watched any of them.

    Actually, I say constantly, but there were never any more than 2-3 movies per week that were fit to watch on the Sky Movies. And those I usually had on video. Throw conflicts with other shows in, and it meant a lot of £££ going to waste. (I'm still a little bitter that I waited as long as I did to downgrade :) )

    One of the biggest problems with Sky Movies is that they have to adhere to the watershed which means they only play childrens movies during the day. (and crap ones at that) That seriously reduces the amount of watchable movies.
     
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    So, it appears on the face of it that if you cancel your sky subscription you are almost better off ripping your dish down and getting one of these freeview boxes - you get more channels.

    I suppose it then depends on picture quality via your aerial.
     
  23. whistlingDogg

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    but don't you get the same channels through sky without subscription as you would do with the freeview boxes?
     
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    I thought you got ITV2 on Freeview, but not with Sky...?

    Reasons for leaving? dodgy software downloads (that leave me resetting my box every day), poor quality boxes, slow epg, interactive features that might be worth a peek if they weren't s o v e r y s l o w, unjustified price hike, excessive adverts (that still don't cover the price hike), and their attitude.

    I wish I was strong enough to leave, rather than just moan... :rolleyes:
     
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    i agree with that ...just got sky installed last month and was on the full (ie sky world ) package ... didn't get to watch a single decent movie on the movie channels ..except for CASTAWAY which they show almost everyday and which I am sure many people have seen previously as well... rest of the semi-decent movies start at 10pm or so and who has time to stay awake for those ....(ie those of us who got to get up early in the morning!) ...

    80% of the channels is B.S.that I don't watch... hence I recently downgraded to the entertainment pack (ie at £16soon to be £18 a month) .....
     
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    Dilemma time then. Do I

    a) cancel Sky subscription and get a freeview card to go in the Digibox - losing the likes of ITV2 and Sky Sports News.

    b) pay Sky £18.50 a month and just lose Sky Movies/Sport.

    c) buy a Freeview box - and still get ITV2 and Sky Sports News etc.

    Added to this is the complication that Sky have won rights to Champions League (although ITV will still show games, whether they'll be ones involving English teams I don't know). I do enjoy watching Champions League but I'm not sure its worth the £30 (or whatever) subscription to Sky Sports World package.

    Does the Freeview Box need a card ?? If I keep my Satellite Digibox and buy a Freeview box, can you have two cards at the same address ??

    My brain's hurting !
     
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    Do you own a DVD player? (probably like most of us here), so

    How many DVD's do you buy a month? As an estimate say about 5, that = £80. Total watching time (including extras = 15 hours monthly) Rent? 5 = £18 (time = 15 hours)
    Total = 30 hours @ £100

    How many hours of all SKY programs do/would you watch? Probably 1-2 hours each night x 30 nights = 60 hours
    Total = 60 hours @ £32.......and if you are like me you watch more than 60 hours SKY each month, esp. at weekends.

    So, which is better value? Now I can see from the above posts that most of you are not interested in sport, especially if it is non-footie related, but that is where I get most of my telly time on SKY. You won't get much International rugby, tennis, golf, etc on Freeview. And what about MTV, etc? At least a couple of hours there and I bet that won't be available on Freeview.

    All being told, SKY is not expensive IMO.

    P.S. I don't work for SKY or any of their affiliates, but would go mad if all I could watch at home was DVD's I'd already seen or the crappy drama, game shows, footie and soaps dished up on Terrestrial/Free telly. And don't even get me started on trying to watch a film with ads or a news bulletin in the middle
    :mad:
     
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    Yeah, I like complaining about it, but I wouldn't be paying for the sub if I could do without it.

    sifowler, I wouldn't cancel your sub right away, because that's what I was going to do, and I'm glad I didn't. If you don't watch sports or movies, downgrade to the Family pack. Then, after a month, if you still feel you're getting ripped off, cancel entirely.

    As for freeview, even if you cancel your sub, there's no reason to tear down your dish. You still get free-to-air satellite channels, and with both boxes, you are getting the maximum number of free channels.

    I'm assuming the freeview cards will have nothing to do with the Sky cards, so there shouldn't be a problem owning both at the same address; or even connecting both to the same TV.
     

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