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I've finally taken the plunge!

Discussion in 'Plasma TVs Forum' started by Majid Khan, Oct 20, 2005.

  1. Majid Khan

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    yes! i've ordered my Panasonic 42PE50 at last, with cabinet.. from Comet.. will hopefully be getting delivery next Friday (still to be confirmed). :D

    Just a few questions guys... how long does it take to assmble the Panasonic viera cabinet and attach the plasma to it ? and is this something best left for a pro or can it be done by anyone.. ie, how difficult is it? i could get a mate to help me out with it.. will just the two of us be okay in setting it up?

    I am thinking abt possibly ringing up Comet and getting them to arrange connection and setting it up.. they charge around £60 quid apparently --- but obviously if its risky doing this kind of thing for the first time than I might as well get them to sort it out.. what would you 'Viera' owners recommend?

    Also - just about to order the QED 2110 Sqart lead... am thinking abt whether to get a QED component lead too, but from what i've read it seems there isn't much benefit to be gained from component over RGB scart with the vieras... so would I be better off just investing in two high quality scarts?

    Last but not least - thanks a lot folks, for all your advice and information which in the end has helped me make the decision (hopefully the right decision).. now, just wish me good luck! :)

    PS - The kids have been strictly told no Cbeebies on the big screen until after Christmas.. hopefully by then it would have reached 300 hrs or more.. so touch wood there'll be no worries about logos getting stuck! :)
     
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    Thank God.........
     
  3. Majid Khan

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    :D

    Hey! don't get so excited, I'm going to be buying a HD ready plasma tv next year... :) so will be starting my research in Feb/March once Sky HD takes off.. hopefully next time i'll do a little more in depth research and take some time out to visit the best specialist plasma/lcd retailers around the country to get the best advice possible, but yes.. next time I won't be in any rush.. ;)
     
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    Majid what no SONY?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?! They are the bestest no? ;)
    Comet set-up is probably a waste of £60 get a mate take your time read instructions and take your time, did i mention take your time?
     
  5. Majid Khan

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    Well HD , I thought since this is my first plasma.. I might as well go for a modest Panny instead... :) hopefully by the time i'm looking for my next plasma... Sony will have something a little 'extra special' waiting for me ..

    Mind you I am looking into the idea of removing the SONY badge off my old CRT and getting it stuck onto the 42PE50.. ! now wouldn't that look cute! a Sony 42PE50 plasma.. (hmm..being a Chelsea fan, I might also be tempted to replace 'Viera' with 'Essien', 'Makele' or even 'Lampard'.. :rotfl: )
     
  6. Majid Khan

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    Okay how's this:

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    It took me about 30 minutes to build up the viera cabinet last week; it's really easy - just follow the instructions they provide. Attaching the Plasma is a two person job but only takes a few minutes - there are hand-holds on the back which make it easy to lift on to the two uprights on the cabinet then you just have two retaining screws to fit either side.
     
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    Thanks for that billy, looks like it's not as difficult as I thought.. you've saved me a few quid there which i could instead use to get a couple more of those QED scarts.. if they really are as good as I've been told they are.

    I see.. so it seems as if the plasma fits onto the top of the cabinet - ie, am I right in thinking here that you can place the screen on top and leave it freestanding while you attach the screws at the back? - i was kinda worried about having to hold the screen into position while its being attached to the cabinet.. so its great to hear that this isn't required. :)
     
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    Majid,

    I despair : ) After all the advice, why do you want the freezer / washing machine sellers to set it up for you. Basic set-up is so simple that anyone can do it (get it out of the box, turn it on). Better set-up (take it out of dynamic mode, set brightness, contrast, sharpness and colour saturation) is unlikely to be done by the store, despite their £60 charge.

    Glad you've made your mind up though : ))
     
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    If you have a progressive DVD player it should be best to use component since the DVD is most likely to do a better job at combining fields into full frames than your Plasma will by de-interlacing the RGB SCART signal...
     
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    Thanks mate, I think i'll get a QED component lead too.. surely its worth trying out.

    Piers, i was actually thinking in terms of getting Comet to fit together the cabinet and attaching the plasma screen -- just for safety really, obviously if they did drop it than i would assume they would be insured and i'd get a replacement.. :)

    But coming to think of it, maybe its not too difficult a job at all..

    My only other concern is viewing distance... was thinking about going for a 37" but in the end decided that the VERY reason i'm buying a plasma is for the big screen experience.. and so went for the 42" in the end.. but my expected viewing distance will be between 6-8ft...

    i hope i dont end up feeling i've made a mistake and should have gone for a smaller 37" plasma...

    then again , i might think about getting it wall mounted if it gives another foot or two of viewing distance..
     
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    42" @ 8' will be fine. it may take a few weeks to settle in but believe me it won't be too big
     
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    The screen fits very neatly and securely onto two uprights which are from memory about six inches long - these actually support the plasma which is freestanding while you tighten up the screws, the two retaining screws on each side are just to stop any movement which might occur. It's very easy to do.

    BTW you will love this set - I've been blown away by the PQ, I compared it with a PV500 in a specialist shop with both showing an HD feed (on the PE50 it was through component) and couldn't tell any difference so I went for the PE50, it has already exceeded my very high expectations. Finally, I really wouldn't worry about the viewing distance.
     
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    MK - you won't regret getting a 42". Give it a couple of weeks and you'll be used to the size. The worst thing would be going for a 37" then in a couple of weeks thinking "maybe a 42 would have looked better". I think you owe it to everybody on the forum who has seen your decision making process to just sit back and enjoy :D
     
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    But what about screen burn?

    Dont all plasma's get screen burn?

    ;)
     
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    Well knowing my luck with these things, nothing ever goes smoothly.. :rolleyes:

    Comet have just called up saying the 42PE50 is out of stock and they are unable to confirm when they'll be getting more stock in at the moment.. they've advised me to look for an alternative if I want delivery for next week (which I had told them was a must).. :(

    now i'm back to the drawing board again.. either i could think about getting it from another retailer (the problem is Currys/Dixons dont sell the PE50s and I wouldn't really want to take the risk with anyone other than a national retailer).. so i suppose PowerHouse is an option as they do sell the 42PE50 - but they have it priced at £1799 --- compared with Comet's price of £1595 .

    Also I was looking at getting Comet's total product cover for three years too..

    What a disappointment... now i might have to look at alternative plasmas.. would go for the 42PV500 if it wasn't for the 101 known bugs/faults that we keep hearing about on here... given that it is the closest thing out there to the 42PE50.. in terms of its picture quality.

    I'm wondering whether it might be worth going for the Pioneer 436... how would you guys compare its PQ with that of the Panasonic 42PE50 when watching DVDs or Freeview/Sky ??

    I wasnt too impressed with the Pioneer I saw at Comet but i'm assuming it could well be poorly set up... and surely with all these awards its getting and good reviews, it can't be the worst option !

    One plasma which i've seen recently which did impress me with its picture quality I must say was the LG 42PX5D -- it had BBC News 24 being shown and it looked every bit as good as my Sony CRT... but i've read reports of ppl having problems with LG plasmas and image retention is meant to be quite common on these..

    So i guess that leaves with the Pioneer 436 as the best alternative, if I were to cancel the 42PE50... what would you guys say, would this be a good choice ? ( i know one's worth £1000 more than the other.. but i'm ignoring the money for the moment, just looking for the best picture quality with DVD and Sky/Freeview.. reliability, and of course, its level of screen burn resistance)

    One or two ppl have told me that the Pioneer has a juddering problem which has put me off a little.. but i've read other ppl say that this could be due to the settings..

    Gawd.. what do I do! finally had a peaceful sleep last night, looking forward to the new plasma next week.. but then I wake up and Comet ruin it all for me!! :D :rolleyes:
     
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    Have you tried Selfridges, they have the 42PE50 on offer for £1450 with free DVD Recorder, other good option is John Lewis.
     
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    or empiredirect.co.uk...
     
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    They will all be delivered from Panasonic or a main warehouse somewhere and all warranty claims will have a engineer sent round to your house, so why does it matter where you get it from?

    Just get a PV500 and be done with it, why spend as much on a PE50?? If you were paying £1200 for it fair enough, but you aren't.
    The 436xde is getting reports of screen burn too, which is what put you off plasmas in the first place.
     
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    For what it's worth, I've had the 42PV500 for two weeks now and it's just getting better and better. Even on terrestrial tv, there is a very CRT-like quality to it and it seems much more forgiving of poorer signals than other screens I demo'd. Having said that, the detail on a DVD or with an HD feed from PC is unbelievable. Means you can just sit down in the evening in front of it and chill, or wind up the power on the surround and go for the full movie experience. As an all rounder, I firmly believe I made the right choice and wouldn't swap it even if I could :thumbsup:
     
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    Don't waste your money! Go for a PE50!
     
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    Come on pv500 owners - back me up! Spend now.... you can't take it with you! :lesson: :rotfl: :rotfl:
     
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    i'm really tempted to go for the 42PV500 , purely because it has the superb picture quality that i'm after... but having just read that "Image Retention" thread again -- there really are some frightening experiences in there with the PV500.. including one chap who claims that even 10 mins of watching a channel with logo, leaves image retention on his screen.. which does go away after a few minutes but eventually it might well burn in.

    That's not even bearing in mind the buzzing, whistling noises, horizontal lines, god damn it .. as paranoid I might be seen on here, but its not so much the money.. just the fact that I dont want to get into the hassle of chasing up retailers/manufacturers asking for repair, replacement or refunds etc... and with so many bugs with the PV500, the probability of getting one that doesn't suffer from any of these issues would be quite remote I would think.

    Anyhow, i'm still waiting for Comet to get back to me... the chap did say that my order was still being processed and i'll be contancted later on today with some sort of idea about delivery..

    If its upto 2 weeks, i'll stick with the 42PE50.. if not i'll probably go for the 37PE50 (provided they have it in stock)... if not , than i'll go down to PowerHouse and pay the extra 200 quid.. for the 42PE50.. which i' m hoping they do have in stock.

    I realise its a lot chaper to get it on the internet from places like sound and vision, rgb direct or empiredirect -- but i've heard abt other ppl having bad experiences with these e-retailers , last thing I want is a screen arriving damaged in transit from some e-retailer down south.. and then having to get into the hassle of sending it back, apparently some of these retailers even place the onus on the customer to arrange shipping etc..

    I realise that ppl also have bad experiences with Comet and Currys, as I did myself in fact only a few weeks back having ordered a Samsung fridge/freezer from Currys and waiting 2 months for delivery... having to push them around.. but I have the comfort that with Currys or Comet there's always someone there you could speak to and argue your case... (there's always a manager above to go and speak to too! )... and in my experience, the customer always wins in the end..
     
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    I'm sure you guys must be thinking i'm insane - perhaps I am, but I would honestly buy a 42PE50 ahead of a 42PV500 - even if the former was more expensive.. (and this is despite the fact that I want a High Definiton plasma and I like the picture quality of the PV500 every bit as much as that of PE50).. but I guess its that 'peace of mind' factor..
     
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    Why dont you just buy it on the highstreet with a credit card that has price promise, then claim the difference between it and the cheapest online retailer. I've done this a few times in the past, and it works great. :smashin:

    edit: you even get 1-2 years extra warranty when using the correct CC.
     
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    I have recently bought the 42pv500, I had to wait a while for it due to stock issues with one supplier I then cancelled my order and bought through currys and it was delivered in 3 days. I cannot fault the screen at all the picture through sky and freeview is suberb and even better than my old 32" Sony widescreen.

    I have had no problems with logo retention , buzzing, whistling, lines on the screen, it is perfect. I note you were looking at buying an HD ready screen next year, why not just go for one now !!

    Also rather than buying a retailers warranty look at buying a warranty from av sales it works out much cheaper than a store will offer for what seems a better warranty.

    I don't think you can go wrong and both currys and comet have these in stock, get them to match their online prices as well if you wish to buy in store.

    In short just go for it !!!
     
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    MK as much as glad as i am youve (sort of) taken the plunge, you need to get a pv500 or phd8. if your willing to spend all that money, why not get phd8 with one DVI or HDMI card and 2 scarts? then you have a TV basically, with scart, component (vga) and DVI/HDMI. you dont HAVE to get a scaler.

    i hate to complicate things, but i think your making the wrong decision considering your budget:worries ratio.
     
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    If you have narrowed it down to 2 sets then just make sure the store you purchase from has a good return policy,that way you can see for yourself that the stuff posted about ret damage/noise ect is total B/S.
    I picked up a 42500 yesterday and have so far seen none of the issues posted, the only one i'm expecting to have is fan noise as i'v had that with every plasma i'v owned (its not unique to pan,all 42" and above suffer from some form of fan noise)but really unless you have the sound right down you won't hear it.

    Will.
     
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    actually the pwd's and pw's are fanless, but yes, most HD screens are reasonably "noisy" if thats what you can call it. Our PW4 buzzes quite loudly, but its no louder than my tosh CRT, and not a problem, cos its in the middle of a pub.:D
     
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