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I've been blinded with science !! someone help...

Discussion in 'Blu-ray & DVD Players & Recorders' started by jonnyv, Apr 17, 2002.

  1. jonnyv

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    I am thinking about getting a new dvd player, my current player is a sony DVD-S725d , Review here :

    http://www.homecinemachoice.com/tes...testbench/DVDPlayers/Sony/SonyDVP-S725D.shtml

    Was thinking of getting a sony DVP-NS700VS DVD player, But looking at the following review of the DVP-S770VS (which is better than the NS700VS) , I compared the specs listed on the review.

    http://www.homecinemachoice.com/tes...testbench/DVDPlayers/Sony/SonyDVP-S7700.shtml

    Looking at the technical/image analysis sections..my DVD-S725d player is better ?!

    What would be an upgrade to my already 'Top' DVD player ?

    Price range £600

    cheers...
     
  2. Jase

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    The measurements can only give you an indication of how good they are. Its what looks and sounds good to you and your ears thats important.

    Demo the newer Sony and if you think its better, then go for it. But I dont think you´ll see a huge difference. Your 725 was, and still is, an excellent player.

    As an upgrade thats likely to give you better performance, then the Toshiba SD900 might be worth looking at, can be picked up for just under 700 quid now.

    Its available from www.leconcepts.com

    I´m sure others will have more suggestions.
     
  3. JSW

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  4. jonnyv

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    Thanks for the link to the ns900V, But my s725d player beats it in all tests.....
     
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    what test are you reffering too?

    Dont forget that testing methods also have improved and if your 725 was tested today i bet the results would not be as good as when it was first tested 3 years ago!

    I have the 735 which is awesome but lacks cdr and dvdr readability so i'm upgrading to the ns900 and am confident it will provide the same quality if not better than the 735.

    Sony 725
    VIDEO
    Jitter: 3ns
    Chroma AM/PM: -66.7dB/-67.6dB
    Composite video response at 4.0/5.8MHz: -4.05dB/-7.79dB
    S-video response at 4.0/5.8MHz: -4.09/-7.76dB
    Chroma Crosstalk: -47.7dB
    Inherent Signal/Noise: -68.4dB

    Sony 900
    Video jitter: 3ns (very good)

    Signal-to-noise ratio: -78.8dB (excellent)

    Chroma crosstalk: -57.5dB (good)

    Chroma AM/PM: -71.3dB/-65.3dB (good/average)

    Frequency response (S-video) at 5.8MHz: -5.74dB (excellent)

    composite video at 5.8MHz: -3.26dB (excellent)

    Audio jitter: 174.9ps (excellent)


    Looks like 900 wins to me ?
     
  6. jonnyv

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    If you click on the links in my first post that will take you to the review, the yellow area on the right is the tests i am refering to,
    Sony DVD-s725d
    VIDEO
    Jitter: 3ns
    Chroma AM/PM: -66.7dB/-67.6dB
    Composite video response at 4.0/5.8MHz: -4.05dB/-7.79dB
    S-video response at 4.0/5.8MHz: -4.09/-7.76dB
    Chroma Crosstalk: -47.7dB
    Inherent Signal/Noise: -68.4dB
    Digital Deviation: 151.8

    Sony DVP-NS900V

    Video jitter: 3ns (very good)

    Signal-to-noise ratio: -78.8dB (excellent)

    Chroma crosstalk: -57.5dB (good)

    Chroma AM/PM: -71.3dB/-65.3dB (good/average)

    Frequency response (S-video) at 5.8MHz: -5.74dB (excellent)

    composite video at 5.8MHz: -3.26dB (excellent)

    Audio jitter: 174.9ps (excellent)
     
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    Hope you dont use svideo on the 725
     
  8. jonnyv

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    No i dont use s-vhs...I use RGB....
     
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    If your so happy with your 725 then why bother upgrading???

    Have you considered the Pioneer 747A ?
     
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    I was thinking of upgrading because my mates after a DVD player, i could sell him mine for £200 and put that towards one that plays cdr's and dvd-a.

    Any thoughts on the Toshiba SD900e ?
     
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    Its a tempting propostion but if I was spending that much I would get the Pioneer for the sheer usabillity of it and all the formats.

    Still think im gonna stick with the ns900 though providing the one from superfis is able to do rce discs ok.

    Also if your letting your budget creep up there is the Denon 2800 and if if creeps up anymore then your in Arcam territory.

    Also consider Meridan they do a top end player for 700 quid which just got a damn good review in on of the many mags i bought this week.
     
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    I may have read the figures incorrectly ?

    I asumed lower was better in the test results, Can anyone explain ?

    cheers
     
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    Higher is better

    Going buy several reviews anyway.
     
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    sell yours to your m8 and have my 735 :)
     
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    I thought the higher the decibels the more noise/interference it meant ? Hence the lower the figure the better ie less noise to signal ratio less chroma cross talk etc etc.

    Confused you will be ! I know I am at times.
     
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    Thanks JSW ! But from a 725 to a 735 , I dont think thats an upgrade, only difference being dts decoding onboard....

    but thanks anyway...
     
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    Before you by the DVPNS900 do a search on this forum concerning the problems that a lot of customers have had with it. I own one and at the moment it is is in a Sony repair shop for modification
     
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    Fully aware of them and fully aware any player after feb is ok :)

    But after seeing the link to leconcepts i think my budget just increased to 700 quid

    Only thing is now which do i choose................................
    Tosh 900 or Pioneer 747 or ??
     
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    Free upgrade for a 12 month old 735 against your aging 725
    200 quid for mine boxed as new.

    Sell yours to your m8 for 200 and its cost you nothing and will give you longer to make a decision on what to get next :)
     
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    I saw the link to leconcepts too !

    I am serously thinking about the toshiba 900e, Its nearly £1000 at richersounds...(non in stock on web site)

    Does anyone know anything about leconcepts ? Whats there multiregion mod like ?

    Also can progressive scan be used on a normal tv and what are the connections used , i saw that its 3 phonos from dvd but can that go into a scart plug into tv ?
     
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    no progressive is for plasma and projectors that support it.

    you can get a component to scart adapter but tv has to support component input.
     
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    Thanks for that..im just on there web site now...shoping cart has toshiba 900e in it....just need to press submit !
     
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    Nice one :)

    Did you hit it ???
     
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    I have....I pressed it !!

    Oh my god...i wanted an upgrade dvd player for about £300, now ive got a £700 player arriving on friday!

    I hope ive done the right thing..im terrible with money.....
     
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    Heheh im sure you wont regret it.

    I just cant find anywhere that says wether its dvdr compatiable?
     
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    I didnt think of that..dvdr would be good....roll on friday !
     
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    Her indoors' Tosh 110 plays DVD-Rs and so does my Sony 9000ES, so the 900 should be fine.

    Good choice - I was torn between the 900 and the 9000ES, couldn't find the Tosh anywhere in stock so went for the Sony. I think the Sony is a great machine, and you won't regret the Tosh.
     
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    jonnyv,

    Welcome to the club. You are/will the proud owner of a stonking dvd player. Component is impressive, progressive component is spectacular. Soon as you can, get a suitable TV/PJ and wallow in the awesomeness of it all.

    By the way. The loading mechanism is pure sex.
     
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    My Toshiba 3107 region 1 only player has picture quality that compares well to my Toshiba SD900e when viewed on regular crt based televisions.With a projector some differences may become noticable with interlaced playback and Progessive scan is a different ball game.The 3107 is a 1997 second generation machine,the SD900e is 2000/2001 top of the range.There is very little difference in picture quality from properly engineered DVD players, be they 1997 or 2002.

    There is a great deal of hype from magazines and company marketing departments to get consumers to keep upgrading.If amplifiers and loudspeakers had improved as much as reviews and specs would have us believe, you could buy the equivalent of a multi-thousand pound piece of equipment for a couple of hundred pounds

    Very obvious example of marketing hype on what seems like all consumer electonics of the past seventeen years - 'DIGITAL READY' and it's still being used to dupe the consumer !!!

    Sorry i'm ranting,but needed to get this off my chest:devil:
     

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