Discussion in 'Satellite TV, Sky TV & FreeSat' started by 6022tivo, Feb 2, 2009.
Anynews on this coming to a SKY HD box soon...
It is the decider on what box I am going to get..
Why is it the decider ? ITV HD is a part time channel, broadcasting a few times a week.
As far as I know there is never going to be ITV HD on SkyHD although do take into account that the only thing they broadcast in HD for ITV is football and thats about it. ITV HD is not fully reconised yet as a complete channel. And for what ITV shows I would not let that be the decider on whether or not to go SkyHD!
And movies and drama, so not just football.
and the adverts, dont forget...loads of adverts, thats why i dont care if it never comes,
i wouldnt bother deciding which box to get for HD just on ITV. Most of there programming is rubbish IMO
The FA cup games last week were great.
No way would ITV HD sway my decision its not even a stand alone channel. If its to be broadcast in HD you have to press the red button on the ITV channel. Sky HD to me is worth every penny. Look at this way when you go for a meal and a drink with the wife I would think the vert least you would spend is £35 now £57 for a whole months entertainment films footy docus all in fantastic HD no contest
Movies with ads & a 40 minute news break, do me a favour !
Which drama? I looked out of curiosity to see if the high profile Whitechapel was & it doesn't appear to be.
This is brand new, if they can't be bothered with that well what a commitment.
Football might be in HD, but seriously ITV Sport, if there is worse sports coverage, I've yet to see it.
In fact is there a point to iTV?
Harry Hill. 30 minutes out of 10,080 minutes in a week.
If I told the girlfriend that she was going to have to miss out on a meal out every month to cover the Sky sub I'd be waking up one morning with something missing. Fortunately I was able to couch it as "I got a pay rise, let's get Sky so you can watch loads of movies." (wise move on my part not to mention the sport).
I agree there's not much at the moment although the football is a bonus.
For what it's worth I thought these were done pretty well.
thanks for the pics, is THAT the quality you get on ITVHD? pretty poor IMHO, seems worse than my SD
Dont forget the camera could have limitations and if this is a paused picture that often make the picture worse.
But yes, looks like Im not missing out on anything without it on SKy HD
Unforgiven, Wild at Heart.
Don't know about Whitechapel as I've not watched it.
I have both Freesat and Sky HD, but there seems to be a lot of Sky owners slagging off a free HD channel that they cannot get and don't want to watch. Must have plenty of time on your hands to get wound up about something you aren't interested in.
All these HD experts on here yet nobody has noticed the images aren't grabbed at HD resolution. LOL
mmm says ITV HD so can only assume its erm HD, I've heard this is about norm for ITV HD PQ. As the last poster said, looks like were not missing anything. Thanks anyway Joball for giving us all the heads up
The grabs are taken from ITVHD, but not at HD resolution so it cannot be expected to look like HD. To be honest the FA cup game between Man U and Tottenham looked as good as any game I've watched on Sky Sports HD.
I think for a free service it has it's good points and bad. But when you think that Sky are raking in a fair amount of money each month from subscribers it's expected that Sky HD should be better without doubt. If it wasn't people would complain.
Thanks jwball, grabbed these also not at HD resolution but think you can tell the quality but I know what you mean about capturing a picture
The programs were recorded at 1080 and I then re-encoded to 720 in the same vein as downloaded US shows (i.e. 1.2GB per 40 minutes).
There is also a 1024x1024 limit on jpg attachments so I quickly resized the screenshots in Paint.
The bitrate for ITV HD is around 10 Meg compared to the BBC's 16 and the difference is noticable in my opinion but it is also vastly superior to ITV SD.
The screenshots were posted purely to illustrate that ITV do show some non-football HD.
For the sake of balance here are two screenshots of BBC HD shows similarly encoded and resized.
We have Sky HD and can see ITV HD via an FTA HD box (non Freesat).
There are about 3 programmes per week in HD. This week, for instance, Wild at Heart and the Piers Morgan Documentary and the FA Cup.
That is about the norm.
Wild at Heart is very good PQ. Certainly comparable with most things on Sky and better than some.
The Bill was in HD last year (for two episodes!) back to SD now. No regular year round drama or soap series are screened in HD as yet. The longest runs have been about 6/8 weeks eg for Britannia High.
Dramas are hit and miss as to whether HD. Unforgiven (ended last week) WAS, but Whitechapek (starting tonight) isnt.
As yet ITV have screened no studio based shows in HD which would look good. Even Dancing on Ice is not and Britains Got Talent apparently will not be either.
The lack of money behind this channel is self evident and they really could do with getting together with Sky, kissing and making up and letting Sky help them as they helped Channel 4. Even upscaling some of their prime time would improve satellite PQ.
However, I gather the real problem is the ads. Only one HD channel for the UK would lead to hundreds of thousands of people with HD (as opposed to tens of thousands via Freesat) watching the generic HD channel and ads rather than the regional one they normally do. And with the dire state of advertising revenue as it is ITV are wary of the consequences from local advertisers.
Thanks for that - I think I along with many other Sky HD viewers don't use ITV much simply because the SD channel is so awful (obviously exacerbated by the larger screens) - and many of us don't have analogue or freeview available on our main screens,
As a result unless, we are addicted to one of the ITV soaps, we probably flick past the channel, never seeing the new shows, or more importantly adverts for what's coming up on the HD channel.
Is Pushing Daisies in HD?
Never been a big fan of ITV in general and watch very little on it - Lost in Austin and PD are the only non-sport I've watched in a few years.
However I would prefer Sky had it - for football and the chance to watch the occassional programme in HD.
Demons? Not started this yet, but I'd have thought that might have been given the big push on it.
Demons on SD ITV is awful, I wish ITV would sort out there downgrading of the Sky feed, let alone HD
The early Victorian films where everyone walks fast for a laugh (just beacause they have seen a camera) have better PQ than ITV SD
Forced to watch it on the CRT via Freeview, I suppose at the end of the day that's how ITV look at it and why HD will take time to build it's market, too many people will continue to watch a show in SD if there is no HD broadcast so why bother spending the money.
And it broadcasts all its football output in HD. For many thats a decider.
Coming up we have everton vs liverpool fa cup, spain vs england, and man utd in the fa cup.
By whose measure is that rubbish?
For sports fans who dont want sky its absolute gold, england free in HD on itv
Kinda depends upon your view of football doesn't it?
Delvey did clearly indicate it's his own personal view of the channels content by using "IMO" and making it clear it was a generalisation by using "most" not all.
I think Demons is supposed to look grainy to give it atmosphere. Wild at Heart is good in SD, interesting to learn it is shot in HD.
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