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Its decsion time!!!

Discussion in 'Plasma TVs Forum' started by too_laid_back, May 16, 2005.

  1. too_laid_back

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    Firstly... thanks for all the info over the years, this helped me make my mind with my first plasma 3 years ago a Fujitsu 4214. :thumbsup: Now this has served me well, but the power board keeps going, :( so have finally persuaded the missus that new plasma is in order. Now where I was thinking of getting a replacement 42”, the missus wants to go bigger. cause as she puts it, “what’s the point of replacing something that is the same!!”.. :clap:

    Anyhow, I have decided between 2.. the Pioneer PDP-505XDE or the Panasonic VIERA TH-50PV500. I’m sort of moving towards the pioneer as not only was the PQ brilliant, when I saw an demo @ the weekend, cosmetically I do like glass black surround. The Panasonic looks great as well, but the bit at the bottom of the screen, just doesn’t look right… my eyes kept on going to bottom of the screen… Daft I know, but if I’m going to spend 4k on an screen then it needs to look GREAT!!!..

    So what do you think?.... Pioneer or Panasonic. Has anyone got a 50” pany in yet anyhow? As I have only seen a demo of the Viera 42” Would the PQ be much better??

    Thanks. :)
     
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    Where have you seen a demo of the Panny? As far as I'm aware it's not in the shops as yet.
     
  3. too_laid_back

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    Not the 42" PV500.. nope not seen that one.. i meant the VIERA TH-42PE50 ;)
     
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    How about the Fuji? Everyone seems to be raving about the 50" version.
     
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    You'd be better of waiting until the PV500 comes out for a better comparison. Don't forget the Pio is a HD capable screen whereas the PE50 is only SD. The only downside is that the 50" panny version is not coming out until later in the year.
     
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    SteveJR - Yeah thought about it, but its not HD ready is it??

    Neilmcl - yeah i know, but it would have to blow me away to beat the PQ on the pioneer.. It was truely awesome... Spoke to an local pany dealer near me and he said they should have an demo of the PV500 in time for the Bank holiday weekend... What do you think about the PQ being better that the SD model?
     
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    Also.. does anybody think that the price of the Pionner PDP-505xde will come down?... at the moment, the cheapest i have found it is £3600... with an 2 year warr...
     
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    Yeah i looked at that thread... it was'nt an true HDMI input, where as the Pioneer & Pany are... Also like you.. i could'nt justify the price, when you are get the others cheaper..
     
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    toolaidback...

    You really should have a serious look at the Fuji - and if you haggle the price could come down!

    Think of the extra dosh as investment rather than expense! Its worth the extra money over the Pio IOHO (in our humble oipinion)

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    Dil,

    You will have to share your haggling technique with us all so that we can all become part of the fuji club :clap:
     
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    The Fujitsu dooes have a proper HDMI input and uses the same glass as the PV500, the PE30 is an HD res panel but not "HD ready" the 505XDE is good but the Fujitsu XHA40US is better I still want to know exactly what the XHA40ES is missing tho........as you are in Essex, AV-sales should be able to demo all 3 or at least the panny PV500 and Fujitsu P50XHA40US for you (I think perhaps with 50" pio too, worth finding out if you can see them all in one place!)
     
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    My haggling technique?

    "Do you of do you not want to sell that screen?"...lol!

    cheeky! :devil:
     
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    He, He. Nice technique Dil :smashin:

    HD - been a bit busy today but will call Fuji tomorrow and try to find out the differences between the US and ES models unless anyone else can answer???
     
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    ES model has a basic menu system that isn't able to offer all the contorl over the image that the US model can, and the ES model does not include DVI or HDMI so is not HD ready. Basically the ES model is pointless which is why you won't find (a kosher) one in the UK at all!!!

    Dils haggling technique was basic i'll admit, but it worked on me when we sold him one of the first in the country!

    And you really should consider it, it's something else I tell you. Great connectivity, stylish well crafted bezel, bulletproof 3yr Fuji warranty, wonderful internal processing, and a fantastic picture!
     
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    Liam,

    Does that mean that the below desc taken from the digital-point.co.uk website is totally wrong then for the ES model?

    # Resolution: 1366x768 pixels
    # Brightness: 600 cd/m2
    # Aspect Ratio: 16:9
    # Contrast Ratio: 3000:1
    # Inputs:1 x HDMI, 1 x S-Video, 1 x Composite, 2 x Component Video, 1 x DVI-D (data only), 1 x 15 pin D-sub VGA, 1 x RGB Scart to VGA adaptor (optional), 3 x stereo audio inputs


    BRAND NEW, 12 MONTHS GUARANTEE (PARTS & LABOUR)
     
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    Yep. Totally wrong.

    For one thing Fuji's have 3yr warranties!!!
     
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    Hi-Fi Confidential are selling the ES described with a HDMI input. Are you sure Fuji haven't added it to the ES model?
     
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    Yep. Some companies are just advertising the wrong code by accident and are actually selling US, many are advertising ES as US and are importing the ES models from abroad. I don't know if it's possible to swap the ES and US boards, but that would involve actually getting the boards in the first place (not available from Fuji UK separately) and the ES being able to accept a US board (the ES runs different firmware).

    Fuji did release to market a batch job of ES screens that they had ordered in prior to the US models making it over here, but they are all gone now and none included HDMI connectivity. Most ended up in the Smart Home Show. So the only way of sourcing a ES screen in the UK now is if it started life as an EU product and was imported, and imports only have a basic 1yr RTB warranty (that Fuji *UK* may or may not honour for your unauthorised dealer).

    And at £4299 the difference (once you've haggled a bit) is not worth the risk IMO.
     
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    Thanks Liam. Digital-Point have it advertised for £3499 which is what made me interested in it after reading the rave reviews by Dil and the other owners.

    If you can come down that low then I'll have one from you :smashin: :smashin:
     
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    lol..

    steve man ..your haggling technique is bloody awful!!!!

    i hope you do better with the girls?? (OK..OK or the boys)

    x :rotfl: :rotfl:
     
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    Dil,

    If you don't ask you don't get and I think I can already guess Liam's response!

    And I'm already taken Dil(wedding in August) so I'm not free for you :rotfl:
     
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    Steve

    lol...Congrats on a lifetime of........... delete to taste!!! :smashin: :thumbsup:
     
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    Cheers Dil.

    Hence the haggling: wedding = no money for plasma!

    I wonder if it is too much to ask for one for a 1st wedding anniversary present :rotfl:
     
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    :rotfl: lol..depends on if shes more interested in watching TV in bed then watching you by then, mate!
     
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    Ha Ha!

    Tough choice, wife/plasma, wife/plasma - why do the 2 not fit together in the same sentence!
     
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    nah not too difficult, you should try wife/plasma/mistress...!!! :D
     
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    You da man Dil :)
     
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    I think you guessed my response accurately! We don't even buy them in at the digitalpoint price, nowhere near in fact.
     
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    Well, it was worth a shot. I could have caught Liam in a very generous mood!!!
     

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