I was cranking up my Denon 3801 this afternoon, thinking to myself that the volume was - 05db and it still not *that* loud. Toying with the idea of buying some two channel amps, when I upped the volume some more to discover the absolute limit (always thinking it would stop at -00db). I was somewhat suprised to discover it goes into positive territory!! With a volume of +5 db boy does it get loud, still very clear, but very loud. I tested the volume dial and it stops at +18 db. Can anybody explain why an amp would go through to +18db, instead of stopping at 00db. Is damage being done to speakers/amp at this level? I am driving B&W 603s2's by the way. cheers Gavin I just dug my sound meter out at 00db the speakers are outputing about 91-92db, at +05db they up to 95-100db I think it's loud enough!