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Israeli teams in Europe

RMCF

Distinguished Member
This isn't being started as a political thread, but I read a comment in a paper today that I have believed in for ages.

All the chat about Liverpool not wanting to play Maccabi Haifa because Israel are at war with their neighbours in the Middle East!!

Why are they playing in European competitions?

Isn't it time that UEFA threw them out as they always have bother with their fixtures - and lets be honest, it looks like its going to continue for the forseeable future.
 

Hairy

Established Member
Either that or have them play home games in a different country! :suicide:
 

HMHB

Distinguished Member
I've always wondered about that as well. They are also allowed in the Eurovision song contest....... mind you maybe that's their punishment ;)
 
Because they were a member of the AFC, the Asian confederation. But a few countries refused to play them (both in club and national football) and they got kicked out, than they had to play in Oceania for a while. Later they even got kicked out there. All other confederations refused their membership as well and they were just welcome in Europe.

So basically, everyone hates Isreal and Europe was the only place that would have them - because no-one else would.

Since this is not a political thread, I won't make any more comments.:smashin: But I don't want them here either.
 

Silver Arrow

Established Member
Thanks button missing again!

Cheers and agree wholeheartedly with both SOK and Istanbul Kop.
 

RMCF

Distinguished Member
Istanbul_Kop said:
Because they were a member of the AFC, the Asian confederation. But a few countries refused to play them (both in club and national football) and they got kicked out, than they had to play in Oceania for a while. Later they even got kicked out there. All other confederations refused their membership as well and they were just welcome in Europe.

So basically, everyone hates Isreal and Europe was the only place that would have them - because no-one else would.

Since this is not a political thread, I won't make any more comments.:smashin: But I don't want them here either.

Well my logic would be that they should be kicked out of UEFA as well as they are causing constant dilemma's. If they act in a certain way as a nation and have no friends in the world (except for US & UK) then its their own fault and have to live with the consequences. They can have their own little league and end up playing no outside teams.

I can't believe that the G14 and in fact ALL other clubs don't force UEFA to kick them out as this problem of where to play Israeli teams seems to come up EVERY year.
 

Hairy

Established Member
SOK said:
But the bottom line is that they AREN'T EUROPEANS.
I think we could argue the same for some other countries.
How long has Turkey been in Europe?
And what about all those Russians?
 

RMCF

Distinguished Member
Hairy said:
I think we could argue the same for some other countries.
How long has Turkey been in Europe?
And what about all those Russians?

I suppose Turkey isn't really a European country either - although they are trying to join the EU I believe.

As for those Russian countries - the USSR was Europe, and it always competed in European competitions. So by definition, after the break-up, its sub-countries should be European.

But the edges are definitely blurred!!
 

Hairy

Established Member
I have to agree with you SOK!
Israel is definitely a problem as far as football goes,never mind everything else!
 

RoNaLdiNhO

Established Member
I always thought this to and a couple of months back when the euro08 draw was made i though how the hell are israel in englands group, they are not in europe i can see the same thing happening now with liverpooling happening again with all the teams in the group.

stupid.
 

rio1981

Prominent Member
You could also ask the question as to why Cardiff and Swansea are playing in the English Premier League and not the LOW?
 

mjn

Distinguished Member
rio1981 said:
You could also ask the question as to why Cardiff and Swansea are playing in the English Premier League and not the LOW?

and why Berwick Rangers play in the Scottish Leagues?
 

rio1981

Prominent Member
mjn said:
and why Berwick Rangers play in the Scottish Leagues?

Yep, them as well. Really can't see why Cardiff and Swansea don't play in the LOW - after all there's only really been two teams in Scottish football in recent years, why Cardiff & Swansea but not Rangers & Celtic?
 

overkill

Distinguished Member
rio1981 said:
Yep, them as well. Really can't see why Cardiff and Swansea don't play in the LOW - after all there's only really been two teams in Scottish football in recent years, why Cardiff & Swansea but not Rangers & Celtic?
They were originaly accepted into the English leauge as there wasn't a Welsh one. As LOW clubs get gates that would scare even Scottish Div 2 sides, you can see that it would be a huge financial belt to the Welsh trio playing in English football to join it. As for Berwick they joined the Scottish leauge as it's a darn sight easier for them to reach Abroath than it is Plymouth!;)
 

CFC1

Distinguished Member
Istanbul_Kop said:
....So basically, everyone hates Isreal

An untrue and imflammatory statement.

The reason that Israel is currently under the EUFA or European umbrella is to enable their sportsmen to participate in their sporting pursuits, but not have to compete directly with their arab neighbours for obvious reasons. Same applies to the African Group which includes several hostile Arab Countries.

For logistical reasons, it is unrealistic to include them in the Asiatic or Oceanic Groups.

We often hear the cry go up to "seperate sport from politics", more frequently in the African situation, well indirectly, this is what's being done now. Their sportsman deserve to be able to compete!

I agree however, that the arrangement should include the proviso that all Israeli home games should be played on neutral soil in the current climate.
 

RMCF

Distinguished Member
CFC1 said:
I certainly don't hate them, nor does Sepp Blatter, Lennart Johannson, Tony Blair or George Dubya Bush........

So thats a total of 5 people who like them!!
 
RoNaLdiNhO said:
hehehe all brainwashed by fox news i bet.

You mean it's not 'Fair and Balanced'?:rotfl:

Hey, CFC1, of course UK and USA are going to support them....we put them there.
 

RoNaLdiNhO

Established Member
CFC1: wondering if you remember years ago when chelsea had to play a match in israel, they had to blank out the Fly emirates logo on there shirts. Do you remember that?
 

CFC1

Distinguished Member
Mate, I remember it clearly.
It wasn't right then, and it ain't right now, but hey, that's the reality of the situation..... come to think of it, ain't that the time we were knocked out of the EUFA Cup by Hapoel Tel Aviv? :mad: :mad:
 

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